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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 4121881" data-attributes="member: 8158">Sleep is a good example exactly because it tests how 4e adjudicates a powerful effect, not just some mild zot that's just one out of three or four mediocre attacks you have to make before it's "acceptable" to take a foe down. Unfortunately, it adjudicates it by copping out of actually being a sleep spell. It's not even a catnap spell. Instead, it's a weak, extremely short-term mez. If they wanted to reign it in, they could have tried other methods, like making it require multiple successive attack rolls from the caster in order to knock someone out (thus giving you the requisite multiple zots). Personally, thought, I think that if it's acceptable to pop a kobold minion with a single weapon hit, it's not that big of a deal to take multiple kobolds out with the casting of a daily-slot spell.</blockquote>