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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mcrow" data-source="post: 4273887" data-attributes="member: 29117">Your arguement here is flawed due to the fact that it was widely known that 4e was not going to be just a new version of 3.5. Yes, its fair to say you prefer 3.5 or pathfinder over 4e but , IMO, its not fair to say that 4E is a bad game because it doesn't do what the other games do. Its like saying you hate GURPS because its not Hero System, GURPS was never intended to be Hero System, just as 4e ws never meant to be 3.5 or Pathfinder. Maybe I'm wrong but it seemed to me that it was a well known fact.</blockquote>It's fair to say "4e isn't to my taste"It's fair to say " I like game X better"It's not fair to say " 4e sucks because I like game X better"I guess the hang up here is I'm talking about being objective.Fact: D&D 4e is one of the best desinged RPGs on the market, if not the best. There may or may not be better games but I think we can all agree that it is one of the better games. The quality of the art and layout are also among the best. It was design and developed by many of the best game desingers in the field, the overall quality cannot be denied. You can say similar things for 3.5 and pathfinder.[/QUOTE]