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4E is too video-gamey
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<blockquote data-quote="Wiman" data-source="post: 4109308" data-attributes="member: 61261"><p>The words "bemoan" and "forum" go hand in hand. The one thing I have to say concerning the arguements that <strong>will</strong> insue from these changes is that 4e is much more structured then 1e ever was. Rules arguments in my mind where much more often fought in 3.X then any other edition....as so many rules were in play....even if you were 100% certain of your arguement someone else wanted a book to be opened to prove your point or their's as the case may be. Books opening over rules disputes is a bad thing at my table, back in the day the rule didn't exist so it was more personality conflict then real rules lawyer combat.....rules made people play nice with each other and put the hate towards the system instead...I applaud structure for doing that and can see the same thing rearing it's ugly head if 4e was that "loose" a system but I don't think it is.</p><p></p><p>Poorly thought out encounters are a measure of an individual not a system in my mind, beginning DM's are obviously an exception but if an experienced DM makes your encounter too hard for the party it's usually because he/she is a cold SOB/DOB.......yes I'm talking to you Tim if you ever read this <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> If the encounter is too easy it's not usually a problem as long as the individual can adjust for the next one to take into account the party's ability.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wiman, post: 4109308, member: 61261"] The words "bemoan" and "forum" go hand in hand. The one thing I have to say concerning the arguements that [B]will[/B] insue from these changes is that 4e is much more structured then 1e ever was. Rules arguments in my mind where much more often fought in 3.X then any other edition....as so many rules were in play....even if you were 100% certain of your arguement someone else wanted a book to be opened to prove your point or their's as the case may be. Books opening over rules disputes is a bad thing at my table, back in the day the rule didn't exist so it was more personality conflict then real rules lawyer combat.....rules made people play nice with each other and put the hate towards the system instead...I applaud structure for doing that and can see the same thing rearing it's ugly head if 4e was that "loose" a system but I don't think it is. Poorly thought out encounters are a measure of an individual not a system in my mind, beginning DM's are obviously an exception but if an experienced DM makes your encounter too hard for the party it's usually because he/she is a cold SOB/DOB.......yes I'm talking to you Tim if you ever read this :lol: If the encounter is too easy it's not usually a problem as long as the individual can adjust for the next one to take into account the party's ability. [/QUOTE]
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