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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 4389209" data-attributes="member: 1879">4e Level 30 Magic Items. Who makes these things?Seriously. I don't mean from a "Who's powerful enough to craft this?" standpoint but from a purely economic one. Let's consider the Holy Avenger. It only comes in 2 flavors +5 and +6. Now the +5 version costs 625,000 gp. That's a lot, I'm going to guess and say that's about the net worth of your average county, but it's not obscene. The +6 Holy Avenger however costs 3,125,000gp. Who springs for that upgrade? If Joe Paladin wants to go from a +5 to a +6 Holy Avenger he needs to shell out 2.5 million gp. (Actually it's worse than that due to the 20% trade-in value, but let's pretend you can just pay the difference.)Now for that same money Our Hero can outfit a Legion of 1st lvl Paladins with Dwarven Plate +1, A Flaming Sword +1, A Heavy Warhorse, 2 healing potions and have enough left over to spring for ale and whores for everyone. Now who really thinks his God and Country are benefiting more from his getting an extra +1 than from having 1000 Paladins properly outfitted for duty? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>