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<blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 4397295" data-attributes="member: 2477"><p>I think "gold piece value" is fine in the abstract, since you need SOME measure of universal wealth I think, and it's always fun to have a huge pile of coins...</p><p></p><p></p><p>That said, residuum stored in magical gems that empower a magic item is superior thematically for magic item creation. In the same way that I liked the Samurai's "sacrifice items of value to your ancestors and they imbue your weapon" deal.</p><p></p><p>The thing with either is that it's putting the "gold piece" of such things too literally IMO. Just like "I buy a magic item" wasn't really "I walk into a store and buy the mace +3, it's on sale and I have a coupon!", it was making connections with folks, having it made, donating to the local church and their god fed-ex's it to you next business day...</p><p></p><p>"Magic Item sales" is an abstraction for brevity of play, just as "hit points" are. It's up to the DM & players to decide how much they want to accentuate and personalize the roleplaying aspect of it.</p><p></p><p>I understand that in 4e the "item 5 levels lower" is (theoretically) not as big of a difference as 3e, due to the smooshing of the power curve. (I do think it's still noticeable either way.) 1/5 still feels wrong to me.</p><p></p><p>It's easy enough to change Enchant Item to enable "upgrading" by only paying the difference, and it's easy enough to fiddle with the 1/5 (though, dangerous in that you can't tell how much the system depends on it or is influenced by it) pricepoint. I'm not trying to Rules Lawyer and such, just trying to illustrate my view, and of course, dispute the idea that somehow 3e was the only edition to make magic items less meaningful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vocenoctum, post: 4397295, member: 2477"] I think "gold piece value" is fine in the abstract, since you need SOME measure of universal wealth I think, and it's always fun to have a huge pile of coins... That said, residuum stored in magical gems that empower a magic item is superior thematically for magic item creation. In the same way that I liked the Samurai's "sacrifice items of value to your ancestors and they imbue your weapon" deal. The thing with either is that it's putting the "gold piece" of such things too literally IMO. Just like "I buy a magic item" wasn't really "I walk into a store and buy the mace +3, it's on sale and I have a coupon!", it was making connections with folks, having it made, donating to the local church and their god fed-ex's it to you next business day... "Magic Item sales" is an abstraction for brevity of play, just as "hit points" are. It's up to the DM & players to decide how much they want to accentuate and personalize the roleplaying aspect of it. I understand that in 4e the "item 5 levels lower" is (theoretically) not as big of a difference as 3e, due to the smooshing of the power curve. (I do think it's still noticeable either way.) 1/5 still feels wrong to me. It's easy enough to change Enchant Item to enable "upgrading" by only paying the difference, and it's easy enough to fiddle with the 1/5 (though, dangerous in that you can't tell how much the system depends on it or is influenced by it) pricepoint. I'm not trying to Rules Lawyer and such, just trying to illustrate my view, and of course, dispute the idea that somehow 3e was the only edition to make magic items less meaningful. [/QUOTE]
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