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<blockquote data-quote="That Darn DM" data-source="post: 5476201" data-attributes="member: 6671049"><p>I really enjoyed the transference from Heroic to Paragon.  It really felt special, like a task completed and maybe that was because the DM sprinkled it with a most excellent "escape from the underdark".  I'm not sure if the actual level really felt different, but more along the lines of the actual feeling of accomplishment from moving from one level tier to the next, but I did get the feeling of taking the next step from the low levels to the mid.  It might have been a placebo by that graduating adventure, but I still felt it.</p><p></p><p>Does 12 feel different than 5?  Yes... but I can't really commit to it in a mechanics sort of way.  I might be confused and biased on how well my DM did, but I did feel a difference and the Paragon Path did feel good.</p><p></p><p>I might be wrong, but if you didn't have as much fun with the heroic levels of the game compared to other systems, then maybe it might be good to do a change.</p><p></p><p>If it is you that are running it, I would definitely and try to use the short-term goal of the tier move to your advantage.  Just the feeling of change, even if it isn't all there, is a good way to go to evoke the players.</p><p></p><p>Another thing is, that I do agree with R.A. Salvatore on the matter of 1st and 4th edition:  That to make the game great for first, you need a really good DM.  To make the game great in 4th, you need really good players.  I think much of the power that was reserved for 1e is now in the player's hands and it is every players responsibility to make the game great (Yeah, I know.  You can say that about any game).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="That Darn DM, post: 5476201, member: 6671049"] I really enjoyed the transference from Heroic to Paragon. It really felt special, like a task completed and maybe that was because the DM sprinkled it with a most excellent "escape from the underdark". I'm not sure if the actual level really felt different, but more along the lines of the actual feeling of accomplishment from moving from one level tier to the next, but I did get the feeling of taking the next step from the low levels to the mid. It might have been a placebo by that graduating adventure, but I still felt it. Does 12 feel different than 5? Yes... but I can't really commit to it in a mechanics sort of way. I might be confused and biased on how well my DM did, but I did feel a difference and the Paragon Path did feel good. I might be wrong, but if you didn't have as much fun with the heroic levels of the game compared to other systems, then maybe it might be good to do a change. If it is you that are running it, I would definitely and try to use the short-term goal of the tier move to your advantage. Just the feeling of change, even if it isn't all there, is a good way to go to evoke the players. Another thing is, that I do agree with R.A. Salvatore on the matter of 1st and 4th edition: That to make the game great for first, you need a really good DM. To make the game great in 4th, you need really good players. I think much of the power that was reserved for 1e is now in the player's hands and it is every players responsibility to make the game great (Yeah, I know. You can say that about any game). [/QUOTE]
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