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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5477650" data-attributes="member: 18253">Good points and I may regret it but we're a very seasoned group (this group has been together 16 years and we've all played for much longer). You may be right and I may regret the leap but given the hit to momentum by the unanticipated break and the unease about 4E, I think a jump straight to higher levels is worth it. I might try level 10 instead of 12 so they can experience the actual paragon step but taking a page from an earlier suggestion on the thread, I think I'm going to throw the dread "Lubgrubbers" after them first session These creatures were a challenge for them at levels 4-5 but should be a cakewalk now. Since those are some of the last things they fought, it should help calibrate their sense of their characters plus as an "easy" encounter, it should also give both players and me some ramp time at the new power level. Not knocking your suggestion, it's sensible but between a combination of trying to meet the particular group's needs, our earlier plans to skip around on levels, and sheer cussedness <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />, I think we're going to start in the paragon tier.</blockquote>