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<blockquote data-quote="Khuxan" data-source="post: 4095589" data-attributes="member: 38801"><p>-Fear: Intelligence will not do anything. </p><p></p><p>-Fear: That it will be difficult to design for because a) there's only so much you can do and with hundreds of powers in just the first book, a lot's been done, b) creating something like a class will need thousands of words worth of powers along with the class itself.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: Many powers will just be copy-pasted to create new classes because there exists no system for classes sharing powers.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: That combat will be just as slow as it is in 3.5 because people will still need to keep track of finnicky bonuses/ongoing effects.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: That the social combat system will kill role-playing.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: There will be too many powers per character to keep track of or, conversely, there will be too few so each character will play through each combat the same way.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: The GSL will be too limited and restrictive so innovation is stunted.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: Powers are unnecessarily limited (e.g. rogue powers restricted to certain weapons), and the solution will be a deluge of third-party products removing these unnecessary distinctions.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: 3.5 is so robust too few people will convert over so that D&D is no longer profitable.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: The skill list is too pruned.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: Class restrictions (such as set trained skills and weapon proficiencies) will result in many new and alternate classes, feats, paragon paths, alternate class features just to remove restrictions that should not exist in the first place.</p><p></p><p>-Fear: The quality companies that refuse to convert to 4E will die off.</p><p></p><p>Phew. It was good to confess <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khuxan, post: 4095589, member: 38801"] -Fear: Intelligence will not do anything. -Fear: That it will be difficult to design for because a) there's only so much you can do and with hundreds of powers in just the first book, a lot's been done, b) creating something like a class will need thousands of words worth of powers along with the class itself. -Fear: Many powers will just be copy-pasted to create new classes because there exists no system for classes sharing powers. -Fear: That combat will be just as slow as it is in 3.5 because people will still need to keep track of finnicky bonuses/ongoing effects. -Fear: That the social combat system will kill role-playing. -Fear: There will be too many powers per character to keep track of or, conversely, there will be too few so each character will play through each combat the same way. -Fear: The GSL will be too limited and restrictive so innovation is stunted. -Fear: Powers are unnecessarily limited (e.g. rogue powers restricted to certain weapons), and the solution will be a deluge of third-party products removing these unnecessary distinctions. -Fear: 3.5 is so robust too few people will convert over so that D&D is no longer profitable. -Fear: The skill list is too pruned. -Fear: Class restrictions (such as set trained skills and weapon proficiencies) will result in many new and alternate classes, feats, paragon paths, alternate class features just to remove restrictions that should not exist in the first place. -Fear: The quality companies that refuse to convert to 4E will die off. Phew. It was good to confess :P [/QUOTE]
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