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<blockquote data-quote="Iron Sky" data-source="post: 4096525" data-attributes="member: 60965">Though, as a DM (and it seems many - if not most - who post here are) you never got to choose the level of complexity.&nbsp; For you, the game has always been complex as the most complex class/race/monster.&nbsp; I haven't actually played that much(only played in two long term campaigns in my 13 years of roleplaying and neither above level 8), so I don't how it will be for players, but as a DM now staring at the daunting level 10+ headaches of 3.5, I call the middleground looks like a breath of relief.Having run games with &quot;beer &amp; pretzel&quot; and &quot;gearhead&quot; players in the same game, I notice that, in spite of my best attempts as a DM to please both, one or the other group gets bored/frustrated.&nbsp; Gearheads getting bored because fights are too easy, &quot;b&amp;ps&quot; frustrated at making their 3rd characters because the fight that finally challenged the &quot;gearheads&quot; killed the &quot;b&amp;ps&quot; again.Maybe other DMs are lucky enough to have groups composed of entirely one or the other, and maybe the change will be hard on the group, but I can't wait.&nbsp; (Though in my playtests, my prime &quot;gearhead&quot; didn't seem to like the levelling of the playfield - &quot;b&amp;ps&quot; really liked it, other &quot;gearhead&quot; was a maybe).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Iron Sky, post: 4096525, member: 60965"] Though, as a DM (and it seems many - if not most - who post here are) you never got to choose the level of complexity. For you, the game has always been complex as the most complex class/race/monster. I haven't actually played that much(only played in two long term campaigns in my 13 years of roleplaying and neither above level 8), so I don't how it will be for players, but as a DM now staring at the daunting level 10+ headaches of 3.5, I call the middleground looks like a breath of relief. Having run games with "beer & pretzel" and "gearhead" players in the same game, I notice that, in spite of my best attempts as a DM to please both, one or the other group gets bored/frustrated. Gearheads getting bored because fights are too easy, "b&ps" frustrated at making their 3rd characters because the fight that finally challenged the "gearheads" killed the "b&ps" [i]again[/i]. Maybe other DMs are lucky enough to have groups composed of entirely one or the other, and maybe the change will be hard on the group, but I can't wait. (Though in my playtests, my prime "gearhead" didn't seem to like the levelling of the playfield - "b&ps" really liked it, other "gearhead" was a maybe). [/QUOTE]

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