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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 4097816" data-attributes="member: 1757"><p>My major worry *was* that class powers all essentially did the same things with different flavor tacked on, but the DDXP PCs have allayed that one.</p><p></p><p>I too am concerned about too many fiddly bits and little modifiers. There are plenty of things I don't have the need for (dragonborn and tiefling PCs, an implied setting, etc.), but I can skip over those, and besides, they're <em>dislikes</em>, not <em>fears</em>.</p><p></p><p>On the fence about 1-1-1 diagonals, and we haven't tried it in gameplay. I'd like to switch to a free-form table and tape measurement anyway, but am worried it'll be too complex.</p><p></p><p>Would be concerned about static defenses instead of saves, but since I use Players Roll All the Dice in Iron Heroes, I'm sure I can use it in 4e.</p><p></p><p>Really wished they'd gone with defense/DR instead of AC, but I understand why it's too complicated. Am worried about potential AC-through-the-roof builds, though, since I don't see anything that would prevent all these effects (mirror image, etc.) from being used to generate an AC-monster.</p><p></p><p>Concerned about grappling mechanics, as I'd like PCs to be able to do <s>cool</s> 4tuitous things in grapples, and I'm unsure whether there will be the feats or powers to do so or just grab-pin-crush like in SWSE.</p><p></p><p>Concerned about boring monsters. I'm not in love with the pit fiend, and if it represents one of the more "tricked-out" monsters in the game, I'll be disappointed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 4097816, member: 1757"] My major worry *was* that class powers all essentially did the same things with different flavor tacked on, but the DDXP PCs have allayed that one. I too am concerned about too many fiddly bits and little modifiers. There are plenty of things I don't have the need for (dragonborn and tiefling PCs, an implied setting, etc.), but I can skip over those, and besides, they're [i]dislikes[/i], not [i]fears[/i]. On the fence about 1-1-1 diagonals, and we haven't tried it in gameplay. I'd like to switch to a free-form table and tape measurement anyway, but am worried it'll be too complex. Would be concerned about static defenses instead of saves, but since I use Players Roll All the Dice in Iron Heroes, I'm sure I can use it in 4e. Really wished they'd gone with defense/DR instead of AC, but I understand why it's too complicated. Am worried about potential AC-through-the-roof builds, though, since I don't see anything that would prevent all these effects (mirror image, etc.) from being used to generate an AC-monster. Concerned about grappling mechanics, as I'd like PCs to be able to do [S]cool[/S] 4tuitous things in grapples, and I'm unsure whether there will be the feats or powers to do so or just grab-pin-crush like in SWSE. Concerned about boring monsters. I'm not in love with the pit fiend, and if it represents one of the more "tricked-out" monsters in the game, I'll be disappointed. [/QUOTE]
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