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<blockquote data-quote="Goobermunch" data-source="post: 3813584" data-attributes="member: 10516"><p>A troll? Time to break out the flames of reason, and the acid of critical thought!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And there's nothing wrong with that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Classic mistake here, assuming that one motivation precludes the other. Maybe the motivation is: "There are some things we really didn't get right with 3.xe. Mearls had some great ideas in Iron Heroes, let's see if we can get him to fix those things. If we profit, hey, that's a bonus."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure the folks at Fasa didn't have the same thought in their minds when they put out the first edition of Shadowrun. Steve Jackson, probably never had such a thought when he put out GURPS.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I can't speak for anyone else, but I LIKE what I'm hearing. I've played d20 with a number of very smart, very critical gamers. There are some things that just don't work right in 3.xe. There are some things that can be done better. It sounds like they're addressing those things in 4e.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hmm. Perhaps because I've considered the things I don't like about 3.xe and see that they're addressing them in 4e? Oh, yeah, and because I occasionally think about stuff for myself.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Because I'm a geek. As a geek, I'm genetically predisposed to being an early adopter. Oh, and because I know a number of people who work in the game design field, and I like to know what is going on in their lives. Also, because by reading about what they're doing, I get a chance to know early on if this is something I'm interested in investing my limited time resources in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, but I got excited about Ultima V before it came out too! And that Spider-Man movie too. See, I crave entertainment. I'm willing to trade my money for it. But hey, maybe I'm just weird that way.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>See my earlier comment about being an early adopter. Also, I like being able to discuss this stuff with my friends.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why the insultingly rude attempt to piss on my campfire? Yes, profit is one factor pushing the release of 4e. A desire to improve one of my hobbies is another. I liked what I saw in Iron Heroes. I like the work I've seen by Mike Mearls. I like knowing what's in the future of D&D.</p><p></p><p>You got a problem with that?</p><p></p><p>Tough.</p><p></p><p>--G</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goobermunch, post: 3813584, member: 10516"] A troll? Time to break out the flames of reason, and the acid of critical thought! And there's nothing wrong with that. Classic mistake here, assuming that one motivation precludes the other. Maybe the motivation is: "There are some things we really didn't get right with 3.xe. Mearls had some great ideas in Iron Heroes, let's see if we can get him to fix those things. If we profit, hey, that's a bonus." I'm sure the folks at Fasa didn't have the same thought in their minds when they put out the first edition of Shadowrun. Steve Jackson, probably never had such a thought when he put out GURPS. I can't speak for anyone else, but I LIKE what I'm hearing. I've played d20 with a number of very smart, very critical gamers. There are some things that just don't work right in 3.xe. There are some things that can be done better. It sounds like they're addressing those things in 4e. Hmm. Perhaps because I've considered the things I don't like about 3.xe and see that they're addressing them in 4e? Oh, yeah, and because I occasionally think about stuff for myself. Because I'm a geek. As a geek, I'm genetically predisposed to being an early adopter. Oh, and because I know a number of people who work in the game design field, and I like to know what is going on in their lives. Also, because by reading about what they're doing, I get a chance to know early on if this is something I'm interested in investing my limited time resources in. Yeah, but I got excited about Ultima V before it came out too! And that Spider-Man movie too. See, I crave entertainment. I'm willing to trade my money for it. But hey, maybe I'm just weird that way. See my earlier comment about being an early adopter. Also, I like being able to discuss this stuff with my friends. Why the insultingly rude attempt to piss on my campfire? Yes, profit is one factor pushing the release of 4e. A desire to improve one of my hobbies is another. I liked what I saw in Iron Heroes. I like the work I've seen by Mike Mearls. I like knowing what's in the future of D&D. You got a problem with that? Tough. --G [/QUOTE]
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