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<blockquote data-quote="jollyninja" data-source="post: 3814807" data-attributes="member: 3208"><p>This is why fourth edition excites me and why I'm happy it is coming.</p><p></p><p>While it is undeniably true that WotC the corporate entity does not care about the quality of a product as long as it sells, I believe that the individual employees do in fact have loftier goals for the line. My single favorite d20 product was Iron heroes. It was a product that approached the mechanics of the system from the angle of enabling the players to make an attempt, however unlikely success might be, to do anything they wanted. Sacred cows that made no sense to the designer and rules that made the game less fun were thrown aside in favor of an orgy of action and blood. The author of that book was Mike Mearls, who is now an employee of WotC and directly involved in writing the rules of fourth edition. Mr. Mearls is but a single example of how the authors of fourth edition are people who by and large have written books I enjoyed previously, books that have added fun to my games. </p><p></p><p>Like many here the fact that I play D&D does not blind me to it's imperfections, on the contrary I run in to them every week and come here to discuss solutions for the problems as well as general roleplaying subjects. While I have house rules that fill the rules gaps I find it encouraging that the developers are speaking about the same problems I see and addressing them. I have faith in the individuals that are piloting the ship and the ship has held together for a long time now.</p><p></p><p>Why will I buy 4e without first having read reviews and playtesting it? Because $100 for three core books is nothing to me. Even if I only play three nights of 6 hrs each and then never touch the books again in my disgust, that's still cheaper then devoting a similar ammount of time to movies at a theater and I get to interact with people who's company I enjoy the entire time. I also get the joy of writing a new campaign world (one of my favorite ways to whittle away my time) that fits the inherant theme of the new edition. I actually said to a friend about six months ago "I hope WotC gets on with it and announces fourth edition at gencon".</p><p></p><p>It's not that I think 3.5 is unplayable as I play it weekly. I just honestly believe that there is no more content worth writing for the system. In fact I believe that they ran out of worth while content for the system a long time ago. When you start coming out with books like the book of nine swords which I loved but which thematically simply does not fit your game as it exists, you need to take a look at weither you can continue to create material for the system and not end up like 2e was near the point where TSR sold. To be honest, I just see 3.5 as being done. People who say things like "I have enough 3.X books to last me forever, I'll never switch to 4e" are simply driving that point home. Why should they hope you'll buy more when you already have so much more then you'll ever need?</p><p></p><p>Also, not cool mentioning merricb specifically. The guy just loves gaming and game books. He's done nothing worthy of provoking anyone's ire. But what do I know after all, I'm just a lemmingsheep with the thrall template who likes to travel in herds of 2-12.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jollyninja, post: 3814807, member: 3208"] This is why fourth edition excites me and why I'm happy it is coming. While it is undeniably true that WotC the corporate entity does not care about the quality of a product as long as it sells, I believe that the individual employees do in fact have loftier goals for the line. My single favorite d20 product was Iron heroes. It was a product that approached the mechanics of the system from the angle of enabling the players to make an attempt, however unlikely success might be, to do anything they wanted. Sacred cows that made no sense to the designer and rules that made the game less fun were thrown aside in favor of an orgy of action and blood. The author of that book was Mike Mearls, who is now an employee of WotC and directly involved in writing the rules of fourth edition. Mr. Mearls is but a single example of how the authors of fourth edition are people who by and large have written books I enjoyed previously, books that have added fun to my games. Like many here the fact that I play D&D does not blind me to it's imperfections, on the contrary I run in to them every week and come here to discuss solutions for the problems as well as general roleplaying subjects. While I have house rules that fill the rules gaps I find it encouraging that the developers are speaking about the same problems I see and addressing them. I have faith in the individuals that are piloting the ship and the ship has held together for a long time now. Why will I buy 4e without first having read reviews and playtesting it? Because $100 for three core books is nothing to me. Even if I only play three nights of 6 hrs each and then never touch the books again in my disgust, that's still cheaper then devoting a similar ammount of time to movies at a theater and I get to interact with people who's company I enjoy the entire time. I also get the joy of writing a new campaign world (one of my favorite ways to whittle away my time) that fits the inherant theme of the new edition. I actually said to a friend about six months ago "I hope WotC gets on with it and announces fourth edition at gencon". It's not that I think 3.5 is unplayable as I play it weekly. I just honestly believe that there is no more content worth writing for the system. In fact I believe that they ran out of worth while content for the system a long time ago. When you start coming out with books like the book of nine swords which I loved but which thematically simply does not fit your game as it exists, you need to take a look at weither you can continue to create material for the system and not end up like 2e was near the point where TSR sold. To be honest, I just see 3.5 as being done. People who say things like "I have enough 3.X books to last me forever, I'll never switch to 4e" are simply driving that point home. Why should they hope you'll buy more when you already have so much more then you'll ever need? Also, not cool mentioning merricb specifically. The guy just loves gaming and game books. He's done nothing worthy of provoking anyone's ire. But what do I know after all, I'm just a lemmingsheep with the thrall template who likes to travel in herds of 2-12. [/QUOTE]
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