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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AllisterH" data-source="post: 4108439" data-attributes="member: 51325">Why would you change them if you already encountered them?The PCs though, depending on their final level are looking at a potential TPK but you as a DM should've realized that all the way back when you first statted the slavelords.re: MM4 vs MM5I stand by my statement there's a fundamental difference between the two. Classed monsters tend to suck since frankly, WOTC never really optimized them. Take a look at the Goblin Picador which WOTC insured had a STR of 16 whereas many of the classed opponents in MM4 were simply random monster plus random class.As well, for most creatures, the laundry list of feats/powers that was the statblock was a total waste given how quickly they were overcome.MM5 I thought was better. You want a creature that's designed to work as a flanker in tandem with another? Just give it the sneak attack ability and NOT the entire laundry list of rogue abilities especially if you *KNOW* what attack value it should have.re: PC vs NPC ability.As a player, I can see where it might seem horrible that a PC can't duplicate what he sees the NPCs doing. Personally, as a player, I always hated that aspect of 1e/2e and loved 3E's approach of making everything seamless. Bluntly, I want to use the Harpoon like the Goblin Picador does.OTOH, as a DM, I hate the fact that I must worry about abilities of NPCs in the hands of PCs. Many abilities in the hands of NPCs aren't game-breaking but put them in the hands of PCs? Example: The Sarrukh.As a DM, I would never use the Goblin Picador just to forestall any complaints which in a way disadvantages the other players (no, "oh wow, that's cool" moments when using bogstandard creatures)</blockquote>

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