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<blockquote data-quote="DonAdam" data-source="post: 4163090" data-attributes="member: 2446"><p>People really think its not powerful enough? With its defenses, a +14 vs. will, and flight, I think it would normally wipe the floor with a first level party. Dominate is double powerful, because it means that they can't attack you <em>and</em> they attack their comrades. And that's just generic succubus, not the Julia Roberts succubus that has a name and you take home to pamper. Julia would be elite or even solo.</p><p></p><p>This is not to say that victory is guaranteed. Certainly dice and circumstances matter. As Dr. Strangemonkey knows, all it takes is a blanket and some <em>Sovereign Glue</em>.</p><p></p><p>The two things that stand out on the succubus:</p><p>1) Touch isn't necrotic, though it sounds like maybe it would be.</p><p></p><p>2) If a charmed person can throw themselves in front of an attack, can an uncharmed defender do it for an ally? I think it would annoy the hell out of my players if they figured out that asymmetry. (Parenthetically in before any absurd "if you're charmed you're willing to risk yourself" psychological explanations. Players control what their characters try.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DonAdam, post: 4163090, member: 2446"] People really think its not powerful enough? With its defenses, a +14 vs. will, and flight, I think it would normally wipe the floor with a first level party. Dominate is double powerful, because it means that they can't attack you [I]and[/I] they attack their comrades. And that's just generic succubus, not the Julia Roberts succubus that has a name and you take home to pamper. Julia would be elite or even solo. This is not to say that victory is guaranteed. Certainly dice and circumstances matter. As Dr. Strangemonkey knows, all it takes is a blanket and some [I]Sovereign Glue[/I]. The two things that stand out on the succubus: 1) Touch isn't necrotic, though it sounds like maybe it would be. 2) If a charmed person can throw themselves in front of an attack, can an uncharmed defender do it for an ally? I think it would annoy the hell out of my players if they figured out that asymmetry. (Parenthetically in before any absurd "if you're charmed you're willing to risk yourself" psychological explanations. Players control what their characters try.) [/QUOTE]
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