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<blockquote data-quote="GoodKingJayIII" data-source="post: 4163898" data-attributes="member: 13804">Look at it another way:&nbsp; characters are built to survive, while monsters are built to die.Ok, that's an oversimplification, but think of a PC over the course of its career.&nbsp; How many saving throws will it have to make?&nbsp; How many critical hits is it subject to?&nbsp; That kind of thing.&nbsp; It's going to be far more than any monster.&nbsp; Which means there are more chances for a PC to suffer from something particular nasty, like a death effect of 100-point critical hit.I agree that damage looks low.&nbsp; Maybe too low.&nbsp; I'm going to reserve judgment on this until I get the rules in hand.&nbsp; But before we really worry about this, remember two things:1) 4e encounter design is moving away from the &quot;all or nothing model,&quot; where monsters are destroyed in one round and PCs are subject to 10 kinds of save or read-a-magazine effects.&nbsp; Instead, we're going to have a lot more monsters in combat encounters.&nbsp; More monsters = more damage rolls = more damage.2) We haven't really seen a monster devoted to dealing damage.&nbsp; The pit find is a leader.&nbsp; The war devil is a leader.&nbsp; The sucubbus is a controller.&nbsp; A better example of a damage dealer might be something like the <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/durr/20080409a" target="_blank">elite shadar-kai warrior</a> mentioned in another article, who can deal 3 attacks with one standard action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GoodKingJayIII, post: 4163898, member: 13804"] Look at it another way: characters are built to survive, while monsters are built to die. Ok, that's an oversimplification, but think of a PC over the course of its career. How many saving throws will it have to make? How many critical hits is it subject to? That kind of thing. It's going to be far more than any monster. Which means there are more chances for a PC to suffer from something particular nasty, like a death effect of 100-point critical hit. I agree that damage looks low. Maybe too low. I'm going to reserve judgment on this until I get the rules in hand. But before we really worry about this, remember two things: 1) 4e encounter design is moving away from the "all or nothing model," where monsters are destroyed in one round and PCs are subject to 10 kinds of save or read-a-magazine effects. Instead, we're going to have a lot more monsters in combat encounters. More monsters = more damage rolls = more damage. 2) We haven't really seen a monster devoted to dealing damage. The pit find is a leader. The war devil is a leader. The sucubbus is a controller. A better example of a damage dealer might be something like the [URL=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/durr/20080409a]elite shadar-kai warrior[/URL] mentioned in another article, who can deal 3 attacks with one standard action. [/QUOTE]

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