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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voss" data-source="post: 4166230" data-attributes="member: 57593">Maybe.  It would be really tough, however, as dominate and charming kiss are nearly certain to hit.  So it would quickly become 2 1st level characters, someone sitting out of the fight (buffing /healing the party if the succubus chooses poorly) vs the succubus and 1 character.  The defenses aren't unreachable, but 90 hit points are a lot to chew through.If they go nova, they can probably do it.@tomtil-  I still don't see the ambiguity.  Not necessarily the best tactics in the tactics section, but not ambiguous.  (Charming kiss is better first, since it can last the whole battle, whereas dominate has to be done each round).  But forcing someone to approach so they are in range of the kiss does make some sense, especially since they are dominated until the end of her next turn, so depending on the text of dominate, she can order them to not resist the kiss.  No ambiguity there.As for slavishly loyal- it makes people step in front of sword thrusts.  That pretty much fits my definition of slavish loyalty.  Not ambiguous. Sustaining the 'can't attack' and 'bodyguard' functions doesn't add ambiguity either.  It still does what it does.As for the rest of the flavor text... Yep.  It can do that.  shapechange, good bluff/diplomacy.Yep.  That too.Spy type scout, maybe.  Doesn't have much on the sneaking.  Insight makes it a good judge of character, so I'll buy advisor.  Concubine... bluff/diplomacy again plus big charisma score.  Fine.Yep.  Clearly right.  A bit handwaved, but I suppose you can just make the attack if it comes to that.  Someone who knows its nature might resist, but thats reflected well enough in the attack roll.  Since it doesn't do anything else, it doesn't seem too powerful.Hypebole, but fine.Sure.  I think both powers qualify as emotional manipulationYep.  Dominate does this.I'd say jumping in front of sword thrust qualifies.  As does being unable to attack despite knowing its an Evil, soul-corrupting fiend! (if you do).Yeah...nothing prevents this.well, nothing compels the target to stay nearby.  I guess you can call this ambiguous if you really want to.  But nothing prevents the succubus from staying nearby, using diplomacy/bluff to convince the target to stay, or just dominating them again and calling them back.  (and then kissing them again).  But it seems a bit much to raise a stink over 3 little words (five if you really want to count the or and both pronouns, but they signify the same target), and making a big deal out of 'ambiguity'. this doesn't contradict either power, so this is fine.  Not the best choice, but whatever.</blockquote>

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