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<blockquote data-quote="Green Knight" data-source="post: 4166267" data-attributes="member: 2723"><p>Hmm. Let's find out.</p><p></p><p>Ok, the four PC’s in question are Kathra, Skamos, Erais, and Riardon. Let’s assume they’re aware of each other at the start of the combat, and are about 30 feet apart. So rolling initiative, the batting order is as follows. </p><p> </p><p>19 Riardon</p><p>18 Succubus</p><p>15 Erais</p><p>6 Skamos</p><p>3 Kathra</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND ONE</strong></p><p>Using a Careful Attack, Riardon hits and inflicts 3 points on the Succubus.</p><p></p><p>Having good AC, and realizing that Riardon can circumvent that fairly easily, the Succubus decides to deal with him, first. Flying into an adjacent square, she plants a big wet one right on him, easily beating his AC and Will Defense. Riardon is now unable to attack her, unless she attacks him first or uses her Charming Kiss on another.</p><p></p><p>Erais is up, he can’t attack, as Riardon would take the hit thanks to the Charming Kiss. So Erais holds off for now, simply moving into base-to-base contact with the Succubus.</p><p></p><p>Skamos, having nothing he can do, also holds off, maneuvering himself into better position for the next round.</p><p></p><p>Kathra, also unwilling to hurt Riardon, holds off on attacking, moving into base-to-base with the Succubus.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND TWO</strong></p><p>Riardon is up. He can’t attack, and he certainly doesn’t want to remain adjacent to the Succubus and get caught in the crossfire between himself and his teammates. So Riardon uses a Fey Step and teleports 5 squares away and waits out the rest of the combat until the Charming Kiss wears off.</p><p></p><p>The Succubus is now up. Turning towards Kathra, the Succubus uses Dominate on her. Kathra’s feeble willpower can’t resist, and the Succubus orders Kathra to attack Erais. Kathra does so (I’m assuming just standard attacks, here. No At Wills, Encounter, or Daily powers). Kathra rolls a 16, which is exactly what she needs to hit Erais, and inflicts 13 points of damage on him, knocking him down to 11.</p><p></p><p>Erais is already in trouble, so he decides to use his Minor Action and cast Healing Word, completely healing himself. Taking into account that it’s pretty much him and Skamos versus Kathra, Erais decides to go all out on the Succubus. With a Free Action, he calls for the Power of Amaunator, and with his Standard Action he prays for a Cascade of Light. Erais rolls a 15 to hit, which falls far short of the Succubus’ Will Defense of 23. However, despite not succeeding, he still inflicts half damage, inflicting 10 points of damage on her.</p><p></p><p>Skamos, following Erais’ lead, decides to also burn his Daily, and casts a Sleep spell on the Succubus, making sure that only she’s caught in the spell. He rolls an 18, which with a +5 bonus, equals 23. The Succubus is asleep!</p><p></p><p>Kathra misses her turn, as she’s still Dominated.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND THREE</strong></p><p>The Succubus misses her turn, as she’s asleep. She makes her saving throw (rolling a 19), and wakes up.</p><p></p><p>Erais casts a Lance of Faith against the Succubus, with a +2 bonus thanks to her being Prone. Unfortunately, he still misses, even with the bonus. Not wanting to waste the opportunity, he uses an Action Point and casts it again. This time he rolls a total of 19, but it’s still two points short of her Reflex Defense.</p><p></p><p>Skamos casts Force Orb at the Succubus, but misses.</p><p></p><p>Kathra’s turn, and she’s none to happy about being Dominated and forced to attack Erais. Going all-out, she uses her Brute Strike against the Succubus, but misses (Rolled a 1). Burning an Action Point, she uses Brute Strike again (It’s Reliable, so it can be used until it hits), rolling a total of 20, including the bonus for Combat Advantage. Unfortunately, it was still a miss.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND FOUR</strong></p><p>The Succubus is Prone, but she’s not going to risk Opportunity Attacks from both Kathra and Erais by getting up, so instead she’s going to try Dominating Kathra, again, from her Prone position. She gets -2 to her attack roll, but even after rolling a 3, she still succeeds (3+12-2 = 13. Kathra’s Will Defense is 12). Kathra’s once again dominated, and once again, the Succubus orders Kathra to attack Erais. Kathra attacks Erais and easily hits him, rolling max damage! Erais takes 15 points of damage, leaving him badly mauled.</p><p></p><p>Using his last Healing Word for the encounter, Erais heals himself for 13 points of damage. He then attempts to attack the Succubus with Sacred Flame but misses.</p><p></p><p>Skamos casts a Magic Missile at the Succubus but also misses.</p><p></p><p>Kathra misses her turn due to being dominated.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND FIVE</strong></p><p>The Succubus stands up, incurring an Opportunity Attack from Erais (but not from Kathra). She’s hit, and Erais inflicts 7 points of damage on her. The Succubus now has a bloody lip, and she’s none to happy about it. So she turns to Kathra and dominates her, again. Kathra attacks Erais, hitting him again for 11 damage.</p><p></p><p>Erais calls down a Sacred Flame on the Succubus, but she steps out of the way easily as he rolls a 4.</p><p></p><p>Knowing that Erais will be down with one more hit, Skamos decides to throw everything he has left at the Succubus. Using his Action Point, he casts Magic Missile twice at the Succubus, striking her once. The Succubus takes 11 damage.</p><p></p><p>Kathra is dominated, and so misses her turn.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND SIX</strong></p><p>The Succubus is pretty happy with herself at the moment. She Dominates Kathra yet again, and has her attack Erais while she uses a Move action to shift away from Erais. Kathra hits Erais, again, this time rolling a 1. Erais takes 6 points of damage, reducing him to 5.</p><p></p><p>Having no other option, Erais uses his Standard Action to activate his Second Wind, healing himself for 6, as he prays to Amaunator for Kathra to break free from her domination.</p><p></p><p>Skamos casts another Magic Missile at the Succubus, but misses.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND SEVEN</strong></p><p>Apparently, Amaunator wasn’t taking Erais’ calls that day, as the Succubus rolled a 15 to dominate Kathra. Kathra attacked Erais, again, but apparently Amaunator was listening, as she missed.</p><p></p><p>Erais shifted back into contact with the Succubus and cast Sacred Flame once again, sadly missing yet again.</p><p></p><p>Skamos also missed with his Magic Missile.</p><p></p><p><strong>ROUND EIGHT</strong></p><p>The Succubus dominated Kathra yet again. Apparently, there’s only so much that Amaunator can do, as Kathra hit and did 12 points of damage, reducing Erais to -1.</p><p></p><p>Deciding that discretion is the better part of valor, Skamos decides to hastily retreat from the scene of the battle, using a Move Action to run 8 squares, and a Standard Action to run 8 more squares.</p><p></p><p>Riardon, realizing all is lost, also decides to leg it.</p><p></p><p>The Succubus then orders Kathra to behead Erais (Just remembered she has a Warhammer, not an axe. She crushes his brains into a pasty goo, then), before releasing Kathra from her Domination so she can kill her (But not before ordering Kathra to cast away all her weapons and her shield and lay Prone on the ground). While I haven’t rolled for it, one would assume that Kathra’s fate in that instance is pretty much a foregone conclusion. So scratch one Dwarf Fighter and one Human Cleric. </p><p> </p><p>So yeah, put me down as an emphatic "NO!" vote.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Green Knight, post: 4166267, member: 2723"] Hmm. Let's find out. Ok, the four PC’s in question are Kathra, Skamos, Erais, and Riardon. Let’s assume they’re aware of each other at the start of the combat, and are about 30 feet apart. So rolling initiative, the batting order is as follows. 19 Riardon 18 Succubus 15 Erais 6 Skamos 3 Kathra [b]ROUND ONE[/b] Using a Careful Attack, Riardon hits and inflicts 3 points on the Succubus. Having good AC, and realizing that Riardon can circumvent that fairly easily, the Succubus decides to deal with him, first. Flying into an adjacent square, she plants a big wet one right on him, easily beating his AC and Will Defense. Riardon is now unable to attack her, unless she attacks him first or uses her Charming Kiss on another. Erais is up, he can’t attack, as Riardon would take the hit thanks to the Charming Kiss. So Erais holds off for now, simply moving into base-to-base contact with the Succubus. Skamos, having nothing he can do, also holds off, maneuvering himself into better position for the next round. Kathra, also unwilling to hurt Riardon, holds off on attacking, moving into base-to-base with the Succubus. [b]ROUND TWO[/b] Riardon is up. He can’t attack, and he certainly doesn’t want to remain adjacent to the Succubus and get caught in the crossfire between himself and his teammates. So Riardon uses a Fey Step and teleports 5 squares away and waits out the rest of the combat until the Charming Kiss wears off. The Succubus is now up. Turning towards Kathra, the Succubus uses Dominate on her. Kathra’s feeble willpower can’t resist, and the Succubus orders Kathra to attack Erais. Kathra does so (I’m assuming just standard attacks, here. No At Wills, Encounter, or Daily powers). Kathra rolls a 16, which is exactly what she needs to hit Erais, and inflicts 13 points of damage on him, knocking him down to 11. Erais is already in trouble, so he decides to use his Minor Action and cast Healing Word, completely healing himself. Taking into account that it’s pretty much him and Skamos versus Kathra, Erais decides to go all out on the Succubus. With a Free Action, he calls for the Power of Amaunator, and with his Standard Action he prays for a Cascade of Light. Erais rolls a 15 to hit, which falls far short of the Succubus’ Will Defense of 23. However, despite not succeeding, he still inflicts half damage, inflicting 10 points of damage on her. Skamos, following Erais’ lead, decides to also burn his Daily, and casts a Sleep spell on the Succubus, making sure that only she’s caught in the spell. He rolls an 18, which with a +5 bonus, equals 23. The Succubus is asleep! Kathra misses her turn, as she’s still Dominated. [b]ROUND THREE[/b] The Succubus misses her turn, as she’s asleep. She makes her saving throw (rolling a 19), and wakes up. Erais casts a Lance of Faith against the Succubus, with a +2 bonus thanks to her being Prone. Unfortunately, he still misses, even with the bonus. Not wanting to waste the opportunity, he uses an Action Point and casts it again. This time he rolls a total of 19, but it’s still two points short of her Reflex Defense. Skamos casts Force Orb at the Succubus, but misses. Kathra’s turn, and she’s none to happy about being Dominated and forced to attack Erais. Going all-out, she uses her Brute Strike against the Succubus, but misses (Rolled a 1). Burning an Action Point, she uses Brute Strike again (It’s Reliable, so it can be used until it hits), rolling a total of 20, including the bonus for Combat Advantage. Unfortunately, it was still a miss. [b]ROUND FOUR[/b] The Succubus is Prone, but she’s not going to risk Opportunity Attacks from both Kathra and Erais by getting up, so instead she’s going to try Dominating Kathra, again, from her Prone position. She gets -2 to her attack roll, but even after rolling a 3, she still succeeds (3+12-2 = 13. Kathra’s Will Defense is 12). Kathra’s once again dominated, and once again, the Succubus orders Kathra to attack Erais. Kathra attacks Erais and easily hits him, rolling max damage! Erais takes 15 points of damage, leaving him badly mauled. Using his last Healing Word for the encounter, Erais heals himself for 13 points of damage. He then attempts to attack the Succubus with Sacred Flame but misses. Skamos casts a Magic Missile at the Succubus but also misses. Kathra misses her turn due to being dominated. [b]ROUND FIVE[/b] The Succubus stands up, incurring an Opportunity Attack from Erais (but not from Kathra). She’s hit, and Erais inflicts 7 points of damage on her. The Succubus now has a bloody lip, and she’s none to happy about it. So she turns to Kathra and dominates her, again. Kathra attacks Erais, hitting him again for 11 damage. Erais calls down a Sacred Flame on the Succubus, but she steps out of the way easily as he rolls a 4. Knowing that Erais will be down with one more hit, Skamos decides to throw everything he has left at the Succubus. Using his Action Point, he casts Magic Missile twice at the Succubus, striking her once. The Succubus takes 11 damage. Kathra is dominated, and so misses her turn. [b]ROUND SIX[/b] The Succubus is pretty happy with herself at the moment. She Dominates Kathra yet again, and has her attack Erais while she uses a Move action to shift away from Erais. Kathra hits Erais, again, this time rolling a 1. Erais takes 6 points of damage, reducing him to 5. Having no other option, Erais uses his Standard Action to activate his Second Wind, healing himself for 6, as he prays to Amaunator for Kathra to break free from her domination. Skamos casts another Magic Missile at the Succubus, but misses. [b]ROUND SEVEN[/b] Apparently, Amaunator wasn’t taking Erais’ calls that day, as the Succubus rolled a 15 to dominate Kathra. Kathra attacked Erais, again, but apparently Amaunator was listening, as she missed. Erais shifted back into contact with the Succubus and cast Sacred Flame once again, sadly missing yet again. Skamos also missed with his Magic Missile. [b]ROUND EIGHT[/b] The Succubus dominated Kathra yet again. Apparently, there’s only so much that Amaunator can do, as Kathra hit and did 12 points of damage, reducing Erais to -1. Deciding that discretion is the better part of valor, Skamos decides to hastily retreat from the scene of the battle, using a Move Action to run 8 squares, and a Standard Action to run 8 more squares. Riardon, realizing all is lost, also decides to leg it. The Succubus then orders Kathra to behead Erais (Just remembered she has a Warhammer, not an axe. She crushes his brains into a pasty goo, then), before releasing Kathra from her Domination so she can kill her (But not before ordering Kathra to cast away all her weapons and her shield and lay Prone on the ground). While I haven’t rolled for it, one would assume that Kathra’s fate in that instance is pretty much a foregone conclusion. So scratch one Dwarf Fighter and one Human Cleric. So yeah, put me down as an emphatic "NO!" vote. [/QUOTE]
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