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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 4785607" data-attributes="member: 710">Artillery mixed with a strong frontline. They put the hurt on you, you know you need to take them down, but those frigging Soldiers and Brutes stand in your way. Lurkers can work similar if they can easily get away (turn invisible, teleport, or both.). Monsters that inflict ongoing damage with an at-will. You get tons of damage this way, and if you save, the next hit negates gives you it all back. Non-damaging conditions can be similarly nasty, especially if they restrict your actions. Daze or Stun might be the worst, but standing around immobilized can suck a lot, too. A Defender can't defend if he can't get to the frontline, and a Striker can't strike if he stands amidst a bunch of brutes or soldiers.</blockquote>