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<blockquote data-quote="Werebat" data-source="post: 3960921" data-attributes="member: 40158"><p>I have not yet read Rhialto's story and I have encountered a few examples of spell memorization in Vance (working my way through the second Cugel book now). I do remember Cugel memorizing spells in an imperfect way, and figured him to be performing something akin to rogue use of UMD (or the 1E rogue ability to use wizard scrolls).</p><p></p><p>[Edit -- and he memorizes spells from books acquired from Iucounu the Laughing Mage, which implies that this is how that character casts as well.]</p><p></p><p>[Further Edit -- I also distinctly remember a section where Cugel rescues a mage from the warrens of some rat folk by use of a spell from the mage's magic book, and the mage needs Cugel to return his book to him so he can memorize spells and be able to cast again. I don't remember how he gets Cugel to hand the book over, but he does.]</p><p></p><p>I have to say it has been a fascinating read, not only due to the fact that every once in a while I say "Aha! THAT'S where they got the idea for that!" concerning some facet of D&D.</p><p></p><p>One of the earlier stories I read -- perhaps it was with Turjan -- has a rival wizard trying to catch a female "construct" who leads him on a chase in an effort to free her master. This wizard clearly memorizes the spells that he casts, as he mentions the spells that are in his head more than once.</p><p></p><p>Other references to spellcasting I just sort of assumed involved memorization -- even if it doesn't say one way or another. If there are other methods of casting they are not explained very well, if at all.</p><p></p><p> - Ron ^*^</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Werebat, post: 3960921, member: 40158"] I have not yet read Rhialto's story and I have encountered a few examples of spell memorization in Vance (working my way through the second Cugel book now). I do remember Cugel memorizing spells in an imperfect way, and figured him to be performing something akin to rogue use of UMD (or the 1E rogue ability to use wizard scrolls). [Edit -- and he memorizes spells from books acquired from Iucounu the Laughing Mage, which implies that this is how that character casts as well.] [Further Edit -- I also distinctly remember a section where Cugel rescues a mage from the warrens of some rat folk by use of a spell from the mage's magic book, and the mage needs Cugel to return his book to him so he can memorize spells and be able to cast again. I don't remember how he gets Cugel to hand the book over, but he does.] I have to say it has been a fascinating read, not only due to the fact that every once in a while I say "Aha! THAT'S where they got the idea for that!" concerning some facet of D&D. One of the earlier stories I read -- perhaps it was with Turjan -- has a rival wizard trying to catch a female "construct" who leads him on a chase in an effort to free her master. This wizard clearly memorizes the spells that he casts, as he mentions the spells that are in his head more than once. Other references to spellcasting I just sort of assumed involved memorization -- even if it doesn't say one way or another. If there are other methods of casting they are not explained very well, if at all. - Ron ^*^ [/QUOTE]
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