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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rystil Arden" data-source="post: 4269672" data-attributes="member: 29014">How is that fair at all?  You removed feats like Combat Casting and Tower Shield prof just because 4e doesn't have those things any more--that makes absolutely no sense.  And then certain feats that Clerics actually take like Spell Focus and Greater Spell Focus just vanished off your list with no explanation.  And why are you doing this at Level 2?  Level 2 isn't a feat level for a Cleric.  All the +1 level Metamagics should be in there (you can use them on a cantrip), and since 2 isn't a feat level and your second feat pick is level 3, we should include all +2 Metamagics.  Extra Turning and some of the others you listed are actually good feats (The +2 to two skills aren't good, but they're comparable to Skill Focus, which you kept, though they should probably be reduced to count as one feat to be fair).And remember, you also get fewer feats for your character in 3.5, so your selection is much less constrained.  And even with your incredibly biased (and in some cases I think you made a mistake in dropping feats by accident without explanation, like Spell Focus, so fixing for that) analysis, you've come up with more choices for the character (and fewer picks you have to make).  The number of actual choices out there when you include them fairly is staggering compared to 4e.  By my harshest standards (and I can be pretty harsh on the 3.5 feats after all these years seeing them), there's still at least 16 feats I might take with my 3rd-level Cleric feat selection.</blockquote>

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