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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BASHMAN" data-source="post: 3817715" data-attributes="member: 8277">Yes, but I think what he is saying is that you don't need the compulsory 15,000 gp in magic items for an X level PC to enjoy the game, nor do you need to allow every prestige class from every book.  If the DM says "Only PHB" is allowed-- them's the rules-- and no whining.  3E has bred a sense of entitlement into players, whereas AD&D definately had the DM as the person calling the shots [for good or ill].  The mark of a good DM, IMO is one who can set limits and ensure that the game is so fun that nobody even notices.  I am currently lucky enough to be in such a campaign [though it is on/off again] where the DM had us begin at 5th level with 0gp and no magic items in the slums of Sigil.  He's not giving much magic items, not allowing many prestige classes, but we are having fun in the game.</blockquote>