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<blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 5959554" data-attributes="member: 9249"><p>Like [MENTION=22424]delericho[/MENTION], I don't really classify as a 4e fan, but I will confess to warming up to it after discovering the electronic tools-- when the game was first released, I was infuriated by my inability to build any of my preferred character concepts, but with the second and third <em>Player's Handbooks</em> and the electronic tools, I can finally build characters I'm actually interested in playing.</p><p></p><p>And now that I no longer consider the game unplayable, there are quite a few things I actually really like about it.</p><p></p><p><strong>Love:</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>OHMYGOD</strong>, monsters. Especially dragons.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Class specific at-will powers.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Racial powers.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Minor action ranged healing powers.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Less <strong>reliance</strong> on healer role. Healing surges.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Martial power source. I still never play them, but at least they're finally awesome.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Attacker always rolls. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Primal power source finally separate from Divine.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The psionic augment mechanic.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ritual magic.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Simple weapon stats and simple critical hits.</li> </ul><p></p><p><strong>Hate:</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Not <strong>enough</strong> at-will powers. Thirty levels, and you only get two (or three) at-will powers at 1st level, and they only improve at 21st.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Encounter and Daily powers: I'm fine with them being limited, but you can only use each individual power once and only once per Encounter/Day? This is everything that's wrong with Vancian magic turned up to 11.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Having to forget your powers to learn new powers when you level up.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Multiclassing. The original multiclassing system is unforgivable. The hybrid multiclassing system is only marginally better.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Combat takes way too long. Yes, I know, fixing my other complaints would make this <strong>worse</strong>. That doesn't make it better.</li> </ul></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Viktyr Gehrig, post: 5959554, member: 9249"] Like [MENTION=22424]delericho[/MENTION], I don't really classify as a 4e fan, but I will confess to warming up to it after discovering the electronic tools-- when the game was first released, I was infuriated by my inability to build any of my preferred character concepts, but with the second and third [i]Player's Handbooks[/i] and the electronic tools, I can finally build characters I'm actually interested in playing. And now that I no longer consider the game unplayable, there are quite a few things I actually really like about it. [b]Love:[/b] [list][*][b]OHMYGOD[/b], monsters. Especially dragons. [*]Class specific at-will powers. [*]Racial powers. [*]Minor action ranged healing powers. [*]Less [b]reliance[/b] on healer role. Healing surges. [*]The Martial power source. I still never play them, but at least they're finally awesome. [*]Attacker always rolls. [*]Primal power source finally separate from Divine. [*]The psionic augment mechanic. [*]Ritual magic. [*]Simple weapon stats and simple critical hits.[/list] [b]Hate:[/b] [list][*]Not [b]enough[/b] at-will powers. Thirty levels, and you only get two (or three) at-will powers at 1st level, and they only improve at 21st. [*]Encounter and Daily powers: I'm fine with them being limited, but you can only use each individual power once and only once per Encounter/Day? This is everything that's wrong with Vancian magic turned up to 11. [*]Having to forget your powers to learn new powers when you level up. [*]Multiclassing. The original multiclassing system is unforgivable. The hybrid multiclassing system is only marginally better. [*]Combat takes way too long. Yes, I know, fixing my other complaints would make this [b]worse[/b]. That doesn't make it better.[/list] [/QUOTE]
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