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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 3725167" data-attributes="member: 1288">But all right. If people want a less personal reason, consider this:If we cannot at least accept, for discussion's sake, that the information we're getting is accurate, then we have no common ground to continue any of these conversations. It becomes impossible to have a meaningful discussion about the DnDI tools, or what we'd like to do with them, or what the future of the game looks like, because there's no baseline to work from, and because every time one group starts talking about how cool the adventure creator (or whatever) looks, someone else is going to charge in with wild accusations and ruin the thread for everyone.All we have of 4E so far is what we've been told. If we can't even accept that, and use it as a common starting point, what the hell are we all talking about?</blockquote>