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<blockquote data-quote="Jer" data-source="post: 3725654" data-attributes="member: 19857"><p>Except that they ARE people, who know what direction their company is taking and they ARE making statements.  Either those statements are true or they are false.  They are in a direct position to know the veracity of these statements.  If they are false they are lying.  They aren't absolved from being liars just because they "work for a company" that expects them to answer in certain ways - the only thing an honest person could answer in that regard is "no comment" or "I can't really talk about that yet."</p><p></p><p>But I also agree with Ari - if someone is basing their postings on the a priori idea that the designers are lying to us then there's no point in having a discussion at all other than one about whether or not the designers are lying to us.  Everything we know about the new edition comes from the same designers who are telling us that DDI won't be required.  What kind of productive conversation can you have if you go in with the assumption that they're lying about some things and not about others?  Why not take them at their word until some kind of proof comes up that they're lying?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jer, post: 3725654, member: 19857"] Except that they ARE people, who know what direction their company is taking and they ARE making statements. Either those statements are true or they are false. They are in a direct position to know the veracity of these statements. If they are false they are lying. They aren't absolved from being liars just because they "work for a company" that expects them to answer in certain ways - the only thing an honest person could answer in that regard is "no comment" or "I can't really talk about that yet." But I also agree with Ari - if someone is basing their postings on the a priori idea that the designers are lying to us then there's no point in having a discussion at all other than one about whether or not the designers are lying to us. Everything we know about the new edition comes from the same designers who are telling us that DDI won't be required. What kind of productive conversation can you have if you go in with the assumption that they're lying about some things and not about others? Why not take them at their word until some kind of proof comes up that they're lying? [/QUOTE]
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