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4e: PHB3, Monks, and the Gate Pass "Initiate" feats
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<blockquote data-quote="Black Paladin" data-source="post: 5730435" data-attributes="member: 78511"><p>My apologies if this has been asked before, but I could not find any reference to it in this forum. If I missed it, please redirect.</p><p></p><p>My gaming group is looking to start a 4e WotBS campaign with myself as the DM, and one of the players is looking at playing a Monk. (Specifically, a Pixie Monk from the new "Heroes of the Feywild" book. I kind of hope the humor value fades before the campaign starts, but do as thou wilt.) Obviously, he is looking at the "Initiate of the (X) Wind" feats, specifically, the East Wind (adds 1d6 lightning damage to unarmed attacks).</p><p></p><p>WotBS 4e was put out before the Monk class was introduced in PHB3, and as written, the Monk class -- which does not have Arcana as a class skill -- cannot qualify for the Initiate of the Wind feats without either taking Skill Training in Arcana, or multi-classing into a class that allows them to train in Arcana. However, the Initiate feats are still unavoidable pre-requisites for the related paragon paths (which list "Monk or Sorcerer" as the required class).</p><p></p><p>Has there been any errata (either from ENWorld or by general player consensus) as to how to handle this situation? Is the Arcana training a feat tax for Monks who want this extra upgrade to their MUS, or who want to qualify for the relevant paragon paths? Or was "Monk" agreed upon as an alternate pre-requisite for the feats (in which case, is IotEW considered overpowered)? I can come up with something on my own (which will probably simply be "yes, the Monk class qualifies you for the feat") but if those who have gone before have discovered wisdom, I am all for hearing it.</p><p></p><p>Thanks! We're all really looking forward to this campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Black Paladin, post: 5730435, member: 78511"] My apologies if this has been asked before, but I could not find any reference to it in this forum. If I missed it, please redirect. My gaming group is looking to start a 4e WotBS campaign with myself as the DM, and one of the players is looking at playing a Monk. (Specifically, a Pixie Monk from the new "Heroes of the Feywild" book. I kind of hope the humor value fades before the campaign starts, but do as thou wilt.) Obviously, he is looking at the "Initiate of the (X) Wind" feats, specifically, the East Wind (adds 1d6 lightning damage to unarmed attacks). WotBS 4e was put out before the Monk class was introduced in PHB3, and as written, the Monk class -- which does not have Arcana as a class skill -- cannot qualify for the Initiate of the Wind feats without either taking Skill Training in Arcana, or multi-classing into a class that allows them to train in Arcana. However, the Initiate feats are still unavoidable pre-requisites for the related paragon paths (which list "Monk or Sorcerer" as the required class). Has there been any errata (either from ENWorld or by general player consensus) as to how to handle this situation? Is the Arcana training a feat tax for Monks who want this extra upgrade to their MUS, or who want to qualify for the relevant paragon paths? Or was "Monk" agreed upon as an alternate pre-requisite for the feats (in which case, is IotEW considered overpowered)? I can come up with something on my own (which will probably simply be "yes, the Monk class qualifies you for the feat") but if those who have gone before have discovered wisdom, I am all for hearing it. Thanks! We're all really looking forward to this campaign. [/QUOTE]
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