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<blockquote data-quote="Merlin the Tuna" data-source="post: 5276090" data-attributes="member: 55638">That's actually half of my point.&nbsp; Pre-essentials, a lot of making your character great at was he does involved sideways improvements in the form of feats, racial abilities, or strong secondary &amp; tertiary stats.&nbsp; By moving to floating stats, you instead give players umpteen chances to go the boring route of &quot;What gives me a bonus to my primary and secondary stat?&quot; which is frankly boring.&nbsp; Rather than your Dwarven (or Elven or Shifter or whatever) relying on unique abilities to shore up a perceived weakness, he just boosts a different stat and calls it a day.thalmin (a game store owner) confirmed it in his thread.&nbsp; It's frustrating because I really like the Eladrin in some respects, but we're now going to be at 6 different flavors of Elf in &quot;core&quot; D&amp;D, and it's no small amount of doublespeak after WotC's big movement to separate Woodsy elves and Magical elves during 4E's launch.Also, my understanding is that the Essentials classes don't replace the core classes, but do the races?&nbsp; It seems like they would have to... which I'm really not that pleased about.&nbsp; Might be time to stop updating my character builder soon.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Merlin the Tuna, post: 5276090, member: 55638"] That's actually half of my point. Pre-essentials, a lot of making your character great at was he does involved sideways improvements in the form of feats, racial abilities, or strong secondary & tertiary stats. By moving to floating stats, you instead give players umpteen chances to go the boring route of "What gives me a bonus to my primary and secondary stat?" which is frankly boring. Rather than your Dwarven (or Elven or Shifter or whatever) relying on unique abilities to shore up a perceived weakness, he just boosts a different stat and calls it a day. thalmin (a game store owner) confirmed it in his thread. It's frustrating because I really like the Eladrin in some respects, but we're now going to be at [b]6[/b] different flavors of Elf in "core" D&D, and it's no small amount of doublespeak after WotC's big movement to separate Woodsy elves and Magical elves during 4E's launch. Also, my understanding is that the Essentials classes don't replace the core classes, but do the races? It seems like they would have to... which I'm really not that pleased about. Might be time to stop updating my character builder soon. [/QUOTE]

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