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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4463677" data-attributes="member: 2067">Sure, but 4e in particular has a few weirdnesses that are going to make it more difficult. For one, tieflings. "Hey, what's with the horns? You a goat-man or summat?""My ancestors swore an unholy pact with Asmodeus for power, and --"LYNCHMOB'D!For two, eladrin."Hey, I closed the door! How'd you get in!""You see, I can cross between worlds for a moment, so mortal walls are no barrier to my --"LYNCHMOB'D!For three, warlocks."Sir, how did you slay that monster?""I sold my soul to unspeakable otherworldly forces for the power to fart magic!"LYNCHMOB'D!For four, dragonborn."OH SWEET JESUS IT BREATHES FIRE AND WALKS AS A MAN! STAB IT! STAB IT NOW!"Elves, dwarves, halflings...these critters can pass as "funny-lookin'" pretty okay. And most classes won't make the PC's stand out any more than they do in a normal campaign, anyway. But a couple of 4e-isms just plain don't work in a campaign that is trying to evoke isolation, distrust, and terror of the unknown and different. It would be like throwing a fish-man race in a Cthulu campaign. No, these things are not heroes in this setting. Even if they might be in other settings, it ruins the mood here. They are horrific monsters, beasts of tremendous danger, and even that kid with the pointy ears should probably not be on the street after nightfall. Not that they won't make it work. They will. My guess is this will all be glossed over in about a sentence or two regarding how scary-xenophobic the place is and how the DM should play this up by having the PC's get a cold reception wherever they go. That will be enough for most people, I'm sure. But a 4e tiefling warlock is not a hero for a Gothic Europe-esque setting. It's a fine hero for a Fantasy Hodgepodge, but part of the appeal of other settings is that they aren't a Fantasy Hodgepodge. For a lot of purists, this will basically be blasphemy.I solve this problem like I solve all my 4e problems: I don't DM 4e. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Edit: I'm now DMing 4e. I like it. But I still wouldn't have warlocks in my Ravenloft campaign. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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