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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 4441007" data-attributes="member: 957">Ok, well if you see a Wizard's bonus feat class feature as being equal in value to an individual martial weapon prof for a fighter then we have a big difference in opinion here. That is pointless.&nbsp; The scroll can be destroyed as well.&nbsp; And if played by RAW can be destroyed by accident vastly more easily than the sword.&nbsp; So both can be destroyed, but one can last forever and the other goes away after a single use.&nbsp; That is even more pointless.&nbsp; Both character will need to enhance their gear as they level.&nbsp; It exactly cancels out.Remember, I never said that the sword was better.&nbsp; I set up that argument, but the immediately pointed out that it was just an opposite absurdity.IME a wand of knock will provide no where near twice the bang for its buck that a +1 longsword will.&nbsp; Remember the point of this dispute is the redundancy of the rogue.&nbsp; I've had a wand of knock appear in my games.&nbsp; But I've never had a wizard craft once because there are also other things the party can do with the money than blow it on something the rogue can easily do for free.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 4441007, member: 957"] Ok, well if you see a Wizard's bonus feat class feature as being equal in value to an individual martial weapon prof for a fighter then we have a big difference in opinion here. That is pointless. The scroll can be destroyed as well. And if played by RAW can be destroyed by accident vastly more easily than the sword. So both can be destroyed, but one can last forever and the other goes away after a single use. That is even more pointless. Both character will need to enhance their gear as they level. It exactly cancels out. Remember, I never said that the sword was better. I set up that argument, but the immediately pointed out that it was just an opposite absurdity. IME a wand of knock will provide no where near twice the bang for its buck that a +1 longsword will. Remember the point of this dispute is the redundancy of the rogue. I've had a wand of knock appear in my games. But I've never had a wizard craft once because there are also other things the party can do with the money than blow it on something the rogue can easily do for free. [/QUOTE]

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