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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 4441289" data-attributes="member: 172"><p>That does not follow from what you quoted.</p><p></p><p>Need a safe scout: arcane eye.</p><p>Need to take out a guard quietly: the rogue.</p><p></p><p>2 tasks, 2 opportunities.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wait, what? Since when is it the job for the rogue to "crush the opponent"?</p><p></p><p>Summoning a bear as a distraction is a great use for the spell. Trying to extract falling damage from an orca summoned as part of a spell (an entry in the spell that is meant to be useless outstide of an aquatic environment) is not a fair use for the spell and the answer the gm should provide for that "clever" (read: abusive) use of the spell should be "no."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oh, I could name a few published adventures. And you are still spending money on something the rogue can do for free?</p><p></p><p>And still, the central problem here is that open locks is too narrow.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you as the GM are plopping DC 40 locks into the game with a low level rogue and a wand happy wizard, you are contriving the screw the rogue. Accordingly, I blame you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Psion, post: 4441289, member: 172"] That does not follow from what you quoted. Need a safe scout: arcane eye. Need to take out a guard quietly: the rogue. 2 tasks, 2 opportunities. Wait, what? Since when is it the job for the rogue to "crush the opponent"? Summoning a bear as a distraction is a great use for the spell. Trying to extract falling damage from an orca summoned as part of a spell (an entry in the spell that is meant to be useless outstide of an aquatic environment) is not a fair use for the spell and the answer the gm should provide for that "clever" (read: abusive) use of the spell should be "no." Oh, I could name a few published adventures. And you are still spending money on something the rogue can do for free? And still, the central problem here is that open locks is too narrow. If you as the GM are plopping DC 40 locks into the game with a low level rogue and a wand happy wizard, you are contriving the screw the rogue. Accordingly, I blame you. [/QUOTE]
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