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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 4126981" data-attributes="member: 5889">Alright before the flames hit. I ran a playtest with the pregens and ran 9 encounters, so I at least have some experience with the system. While I recognize many are saying 4e can run fine without minis and a battlemat, I just don't see it. To me, there's so much tactical movement and forced movement and marking, etc, that you need a map to keep track of it all.As a dm I don't use minis except for big combats traditionally. If I move to 4e I will likely use the map for each fight. And you know what....I'm okay with that!!Why?Because so far, I'm getting a lot more than I'm losing. In exchange for having to take 5 minutes to set up a board, I'm getting combats that last 30%-50% longer in rounds with no increase in time spent. For the price of tactical movements I'm getting monsters that are very fun to run and very easy to set up encounters. For the price of having to watch my players count squares, I get to see them try all sorts of dramatic actions that are fast and fun to watch.In short, I am paying a price with 4e, but that price is well spent if I continue to have the kind of experience I had during my playtest. So kudus to you WOTC. I'll buy your minis gladly if you keep giving me the kind of enjoyment 4e has so far offered me.</blockquote>