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<blockquote data-quote="Eldorian" data-source="post: 4216540" data-attributes="member: 10504">You complain about 4e seeming like WoW at high level, even when the mechanic you're complaining about also happened in epic 3e, and in 3e it wasn't like WoW?&nbsp; Seriously, stop complaining just to complain.&nbsp; Hell, the mechanic you're complaining about isn't even respawning.&nbsp; It's more like when a shaman reincarnates or someone uses a warlock's soulstone.&nbsp; If you must whine about MMOs, at least pick one where this mechanic is common, like in City of Heroes, where several classes get an &quot;upon death&quot; power, things like &quot;rise of the phoenix.&quot; I think turning into an arcane ghost upon death is pretty epic.&nbsp; If killing giants with your bare hands and rising from the dead on a daily basis aren't your style, don't play high level DnD.&nbsp; I'll be happy if 4e handles high levels in a way that actually makes them playable, myself.&nbsp; I want to be able to do those over the top things in some games, but I don't want the rest of the mechanics to suck because the game doesn't scale, and 4e seems to be fixing the scaling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eldorian, post: 4216540, member: 10504"] You complain about 4e seeming like WoW at high level, even when the mechanic you're complaining about also happened in epic 3e, and in 3e it wasn't like WoW? Seriously, stop complaining just to complain. Hell, the mechanic you're complaining about isn't even respawning. It's more like when a shaman reincarnates or someone uses a warlock's soulstone. If you must whine about MMOs, at least pick one where this mechanic is common, like in City of Heroes, where several classes get an "upon death" power, things like "rise of the phoenix." I think turning into an arcane ghost upon death is pretty epic. If killing giants with your bare hands and rising from the dead on a daily basis aren't your style, don't play high level DnD. I'll be happy if 4e handles high levels in a way that actually makes them playable, myself. I want to be able to do those over the top things in some games, but I don't want the rest of the mechanics to suck because the game doesn't scale, and 4e seems to be fixing the scaling. [/QUOTE]

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