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<blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 4187109" data-attributes="member: 56189"><p>Yeah, pretty much.</p><p></p><p>I come from the crowd that gave up on 3.x awhile ago. After spending hours upon hours upon hours lovingly crafting adventures only to have the players ignore my plot-hooks and go elsewhere, or have them destroy my precious NPC's in a matter of moments, I knew 3.x just wasn't my game.</p><p></p><p>I DM'd about... maybe, collectively over four years of the system being out, about three years worth of games using 3.x and yet still I'd get hung up on grappling rules and confused by supplement changes, etc. My players would always reference rules faster than I could and would insist on doing so 'cause, dammit, rules are rules. And when your players have more control over the game than you do, why would you want to DM?</p><p></p><p>After realising I hadn't enjoyed DM'ing even one single session of 3.x and didn't enjoy even playing in four years, that was it for me. After my last group disbanded 'cause of life-issues, I didn't bother trying again.</p><p></p><p>When I heard 4e was announced I thought it was a prank. Then I looked into it and was tentatively interested. The more I heard, the more I liked. Then I got to run a game for a friend and he was adamant that he'd never play D&D again as he thought it was a waste of time. He played this one session as a favour 'cause I wanted to see how the rules worked.</p><p></p><p>We both had so much fun that now he's even asking me for updates on 4e. I ran a couple more games for other people and played in some others as well and had a ball. It may not be full 4e yet, so ultimately I'm reserving judgement, but so far, so good <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I've had the chance to be in several 3.5 games since involving myself in the community again but each time I went to make a character or tried playing, I kept wishing it was 4e and all the angst of my time playing and DM'ing 3.x came rushing back. So I didn't play and now patiently await the rulebooks release, still hunting for <s>illegal</s> copies online (damn, you'd think NDA's wouldn't prevent people from spilling, grr to all those law-abiding citizens <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> ).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kzach, post: 4187109, member: 56189"] Yeah, pretty much. I come from the crowd that gave up on 3.x awhile ago. After spending hours upon hours upon hours lovingly crafting adventures only to have the players ignore my plot-hooks and go elsewhere, or have them destroy my precious NPC's in a matter of moments, I knew 3.x just wasn't my game. I DM'd about... maybe, collectively over four years of the system being out, about three years worth of games using 3.x and yet still I'd get hung up on grappling rules and confused by supplement changes, etc. My players would always reference rules faster than I could and would insist on doing so 'cause, dammit, rules are rules. And when your players have more control over the game than you do, why would you want to DM? After realising I hadn't enjoyed DM'ing even one single session of 3.x and didn't enjoy even playing in four years, that was it for me. After my last group disbanded 'cause of life-issues, I didn't bother trying again. When I heard 4e was announced I thought it was a prank. Then I looked into it and was tentatively interested. The more I heard, the more I liked. Then I got to run a game for a friend and he was adamant that he'd never play D&D again as he thought it was a waste of time. He played this one session as a favour 'cause I wanted to see how the rules worked. We both had so much fun that now he's even asking me for updates on 4e. I ran a couple more games for other people and played in some others as well and had a ball. It may not be full 4e yet, so ultimately I'm reserving judgement, but so far, so good :) I've had the chance to be in several 3.5 games since involving myself in the community again but each time I went to make a character or tried playing, I kept wishing it was 4e and all the angst of my time playing and DM'ing 3.x came rushing back. So I didn't play and now patiently await the rulebooks release, still hunting for [S]illegal[/S] copies online (damn, you'd think NDA's wouldn't prevent people from spilling, grr to all those law-abiding citizens :D ). [/QUOTE]
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