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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 4190214" data-attributes="member: 54629">On the contrary, I think that the rule system can have an effect on the quantity (if not the quality) of the roleplaying. With 3.5, my group has found that we spend so much time getting bogged down in the minutiae of the rules that we simply don't get to spend as much time as we might like doing other things like roleplaying. Granted, a lot of it is probably inefficient use of the rules but even after several years of playing 3.5, during which time I constantly sought to streamline the game and make things move faster, we still found ourselves spending more time looking up this rule or that rule or trying to make something up on the odd occasion that the rules didn't explicitly cover the situation, that we not only didn't get as much social roleplaying in as we might have liked but our combats often ground down to &quot;I rolled a 20. Does that hit?&quot; &quot;Yes.&quot; &quot;OK, he takes 10 points of damage.&quot; &quot;OK, thanks. Who's next?&quot;I laughed uproariously at the 3rd Edition part of the 4th Edition Announcement video (the &quot;I want to grapple the troll&quot; bit) because it's just so true. Very sad but very true.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 4190214, member: 54629"] On the contrary, I think that the rule system [i]can[/i] have an effect on the quantity (if not the quality) of the roleplaying. With 3.5, my group has found that we spend so much time getting bogged down in the minutiae of the rules that we simply don't get to spend as much time as we might like doing other things like roleplaying. Granted, a lot of it is probably inefficient use of the rules but even after several years of playing 3.5, during which time I constantly sought to streamline the game and make things move faster, we still found ourselves spending more time looking up this rule or that rule or trying to make something up on the odd occasion that the rules didn't explicitly cover the situation, that we not only didn't get as much social roleplaying in as we might have liked but our combats often ground down to "I rolled a 20. Does that hit?" "Yes." "OK, he takes 10 points of damage." "OK, thanks. Who's next?" I laughed uproariously at the 3rd Edition part of the 4th Edition Announcement video (the "I want to grapple the troll" bit) because it's just so true. Very sad but very true. [/QUOTE]

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