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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4190799" data-attributes="member: 40961">There were also a few &quot;problems I didn't know I had&quot; moments in the 4e release.It was kind of like... the first time I realized that I could just declare that players were taking 10 on spot checks.&nbsp; That's probably in the rulebook somewhere, but I hadn't noticed it.&nbsp; I'd always had players roll spot.&nbsp; Then someone suggested to me that, rather than have this awkward &quot;everyone roll a spot check!&nbsp; Oh, no one made it, umm, continue on as if nothing happened!&quot; moment, and the resulting heightened awareness of the metagaming players, I could just assume the characters took 10.It was such an instant improvement!&nbsp; I hadn't realized I had a problem before because I didn't know there was an alternative.&nbsp; Then someone pointed out the alternative, I felt like an absolute moron, and I fixed the problem.The 4e release had a few of those moments.&nbsp; Places where I had always assumed that things HAD to be a particular way, and that certain lumps were just a natural part of the D&amp;D oatmeal, so to speak.&nbsp; And then it was explained to me how to avoid them, and I had the possibility of an entire game without the lumps offered to me.&nbsp; That's the worst metaphor ever, but it gets the point across.The Book of Nine Swords had a similar effect on me during my 3e days.&nbsp; I hadn't exactly realized that martial melee combat sucked.&nbsp; I mean, I knew I didn't like it, but I figured it had to be that way.&nbsp; Then suddenly it didn't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4190799, member: 40961"] There were also a few "problems I didn't know I had" moments in the 4e release. It was kind of like... the first time I realized that I could just declare that players were taking 10 on spot checks. That's probably in the rulebook somewhere, but I hadn't noticed it. I'd always had players roll spot. Then someone suggested to me that, rather than have this awkward "everyone roll a spot check! Oh, no one made it, umm, continue on as if nothing happened!" moment, and the resulting heightened awareness of the metagaming players, I could just assume the characters took 10. It was such an instant improvement! I hadn't realized I had a problem before because I didn't know there was an alternative. Then someone pointed out the alternative, I felt like an absolute moron, and I fixed the problem. The 4e release had a few of those moments. Places where I had always assumed that things HAD to be a particular way, and that certain lumps were just a natural part of the D&D oatmeal, so to speak. And then it was explained to me how to avoid them, and I had the possibility of an entire game without the lumps offered to me. That's the worst metaphor ever, but it gets the point across. The Book of Nine Swords had a similar effect on me during my 3e days. I hadn't exactly realized that martial melee combat sucked. I mean, I knew I didn't like it, but I figured it had to be that way. Then suddenly it [I]didn't.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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