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<blockquote data-quote="F4NBOY" data-source="post: 3782003" data-attributes="member: 54553"><p>What I want for myself is different from what I want for D&D. I like to roleplay, I have fun roleplaying and so on. But it's personal, I don't think it's fair to extend it to everyone on the table, its unfair to try to make everyone have the same kind of fun I have because people are different, I play and played with different types of people. I don't want the Core Book suggesting that it's funnier to play RPG with lots of roleplaying, or somekind of RP, or with no RP at all, I want it neutral, people play the way they want to.</p><p></p><p>Inviting the players to a game saying: "Hey, it's RPG so you need roleplaying, it's not a heckfest, it needs roleplaying to be real fun", is just the same as "We're going to have lunch and I'm paying, but you all gonna eat what I like to eat." It's pushing, forcing your personal taste over other people. It's like walking on the street shouting that your religion is the truth for salvation and happiness. It's irritating, keep it to yourself! Let people choose what is good for them. If they ask you what's that about you do your best, of course, but if they don't, don't push it!</p><p></p><p></p><p>I deeply believe the books are about the "G". The "RP" is about the people. No game should prevent you from having some roleplay fun if you wish(but people can). No book should force you to roleplay if you don't think it's fun(but people can).</p><p>I said "should" because there ARE games that impose that necessity of roleplaying, selling the idea that's the right way to play it, and I think that's plain intrusive, and IME it intimidated and driven away many potential players.</p><p>It IS possible to play on a table with all kinds of players, each one playing and enjoying the game the way they like it. If someone just wanna try something different, he will look for it. No one needs others guys telling us what's wrong or right regarding taste. And roleplaying is taste, and taste is subjective. I want to play with everyone, not the people that thinks and feel like I do. D&D has always let me do it properly. I want it to stay what it is, a game for everyone to play with everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="F4NBOY, post: 3782003, member: 54553"] What I want for myself is different from what I want for D&D. I like to roleplay, I have fun roleplaying and so on. But it's personal, I don't think it's fair to extend it to everyone on the table, its unfair to try to make everyone have the same kind of fun I have because people are different, I play and played with different types of people. I don't want the Core Book suggesting that it's funnier to play RPG with lots of roleplaying, or somekind of RP, or with no RP at all, I want it neutral, people play the way they want to. Inviting the players to a game saying: "Hey, it's RPG so you need roleplaying, it's not a heckfest, it needs roleplaying to be real fun", is just the same as "We're going to have lunch and I'm paying, but you all gonna eat what I like to eat." It's pushing, forcing your personal taste over other people. It's like walking on the street shouting that your religion is the truth for salvation and happiness. It's irritating, keep it to yourself! Let people choose what is good for them. If they ask you what's that about you do your best, of course, but if they don't, don't push it! I deeply believe the books are about the "G". The "RP" is about the people. No game should prevent you from having some roleplay fun if you wish(but people can). No book should force you to roleplay if you don't think it's fun(but people can). I said "should" because there ARE games that impose that necessity of roleplaying, selling the idea that's the right way to play it, and I think that's plain intrusive, and IME it intimidated and driven away many potential players. It IS possible to play on a table with all kinds of players, each one playing and enjoying the game the way they like it. If someone just wanna try something different, he will look for it. No one needs others guys telling us what's wrong or right regarding taste. And roleplaying is taste, and taste is subjective. I want to play with everyone, not the people that thinks and feel like I do. D&D has always let me do it properly. I want it to stay what it is, a game for everyone to play with everyone. [/QUOTE]
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