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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 4127492" data-attributes="member: 58197">Because D&amp;D is much better supported than most other RPGs?&nbsp; Because it's infinitely easier to find players?&nbsp; Because there looks like being a whole lot of good stuff in 4E, much of which won't appear in other systems, and it seems better to try to tweak 4E than try to find some other game?I've played with and without battlemats.&nbsp; Each has its advantages and its drawbacks.&nbsp; I would really like to be able to do both with 4E, without having to learn a whole different game.Uh, no.&nbsp; 3.x was indeed designed to be used with minis, but I would not say that it plays better with them.&nbsp; My experience has been that with minis, it's a tactical wargame (when combat breaks out, at least); without minis, it's an immersive story.&nbsp; Don't get me wrong, I'm a strategy gamer from away back and I enjoy the wargame, but I also enjoy the ability to go &quot;story-first,&quot; as the Forge people might say.And as for the &quot;roots of D&amp;D,&quot; I would never dream of playing Classic or AD&amp;D with minis.&nbsp; Way too much hassle and loss of immersion, for too little reward.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 4127492, member: 58197"] Because D&D is much better supported than most other RPGs? Because it's infinitely easier to find players? Because there looks like being a whole lot of good stuff in 4E, much of which won't appear in other systems, and it seems better to try to tweak 4E than try to find some other game? I've played with and without battlemats. Each has its advantages and its drawbacks. I would really like to be able to do both with 4E, without having to learn a whole different game. Uh, no. 3.x was indeed designed to be used with minis, but I would not say that it plays better with them. My experience has been that with minis, it's a tactical wargame (when combat breaks out, at least); without minis, it's an immersive story. Don't get me wrong, I'm a strategy gamer from away back and I enjoy the wargame, but I also enjoy the ability to go "story-first," as the Forge people might say. And as for the "roots of D&D," I would never dream of playing Classic or AD&D with minis. Way too much hassle and loss of immersion, for too little reward. [/QUOTE]

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