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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 4096180" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>Things that I like:</p><p></p><p>1. Unified defense progression. I'm thinking of seeing if I can find some support for writing a 3.75, or 4th edition that is still D&D under the OGL and under another name of course. Thinking about how to solve the issues that come up with saving throws in 3rd edition games, the unified progression based on level rather than simply class seems like the best way to go.</p><p></p><p>2. Shift (5' step) as a move action. I don't know how many times I've had to remind even experienced players "no, you can't 5' step and then move."</p><p></p><p>3. The removal of gnomes</p><p></p><p>4. Some of the cosmology changes. Deific realms, elemental chaos, astral sea, feywild, etc--I like them better than the current default D&D cosomology. (Of course, I never liked D&D cosmology to begin with).</p><p></p><p>5. The bloodied condition (that's the one thing I have yoinked for my 3rd edition games thus far--granted it's not really a mechanic, but it's nice to have a way to let players know how much or how little they have accomplished in injuring a monster).</p><p></p><p>6. Being able to charge through allies and being able to move then charge. Overall, I'm not a fan of the 4th edition charge rules, but the 3.5 rules were ridiculously restrictive.</p><p></p><p>7. The jury is still out on the addiiton of "per encounter" to the collection of per day and at will powers that were previously in D&D (though I recall 1st edition turn undead being per encounter so maybe it's not that cut and dried). However, I like the concept of it. Whether it works out in practice remains to be seen.</p><p></p><p>8. The artwork (at least the stuff without tieflings or dragonborn). WoW style artwork > dungeonpunk.</p><p></p><p>9. Halberds have reach! (About time).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 4096180, member: 3146"] Things that I like: 1. Unified defense progression. I'm thinking of seeing if I can find some support for writing a 3.75, or 4th edition that is still D&D under the OGL and under another name of course. Thinking about how to solve the issues that come up with saving throws in 3rd edition games, the unified progression based on level rather than simply class seems like the best way to go. 2. Shift (5' step) as a move action. I don't know how many times I've had to remind even experienced players "no, you can't 5' step and then move." 3. The removal of gnomes 4. Some of the cosmology changes. Deific realms, elemental chaos, astral sea, feywild, etc--I like them better than the current default D&D cosomology. (Of course, I never liked D&D cosmology to begin with). 5. The bloodied condition (that's the one thing I have yoinked for my 3rd edition games thus far--granted it's not really a mechanic, but it's nice to have a way to let players know how much or how little they have accomplished in injuring a monster). 6. Being able to charge through allies and being able to move then charge. Overall, I'm not a fan of the 4th edition charge rules, but the 3.5 rules were ridiculously restrictive. 7. The jury is still out on the addiiton of "per encounter" to the collection of per day and at will powers that were previously in D&D (though I recall 1st edition turn undead being per encounter so maybe it's not that cut and dried). However, I like the concept of it. Whether it works out in practice remains to be seen. 8. The artwork (at least the stuff without tieflings or dragonborn). WoW style artwork > dungeonpunk. 9. Halberds have reach! (About time). [/QUOTE]
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