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<blockquote data-quote="catsclaw" data-source="post: 4127335" data-attributes="member: 59911">I'm saying both are real penalties, in the real world, for things that happen in a game.&nbsp; The difference is a matter of degree.&nbsp; Your insistence that they're completely unrelated things is bizarre, like someone arguing there's no comparison between a gorilla and King Kong because one is 300 feet tall.No, it's not.&nbsp; Since there's a judge, who has ultimate control over the world, there's only a risk of TPK if the judge lets it happen.&nbsp; I know plenty of judges who, faced with the possibility of a TPK, will go out of their way to avoid it.&nbsp; Especially if it was something they screwed up (like throwing a too tough monster at the party) rather than something the party screwed up.We're not talking about character death.&nbsp; We're talking about campaign death, in the form of a TPK.&nbsp; If you can't see the difference between those two things, well, I've no idea how to make that any clearer.Just because you can't follow an argument doesn't make it illogical.&nbsp; Just like being insulted because someone implied you were insane doesn't actually mean you're sane.Now if you'll excuse me, I need to make my psychotherapy appointment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="catsclaw, post: 4127335, member: 59911"] I'm saying both are [i]real[/i] penalties, in the [i]real[/i] world, for things that happen in a game. The difference is a matter of degree. Your insistence that they're completely unrelated things is bizarre, like someone arguing there's no comparison between a gorilla and King Kong because one is 300 feet tall. No, it's not. Since there's a judge, who has ultimate control over the world, there's [i]only[/i] a risk of TPK if the judge lets it happen. I know plenty of judges who, faced with the possibility of a TPK, will go out of their way to avoid it. Especially if it was something they screwed up (like throwing a too tough monster at the party) rather than something the party screwed up. We're not talking about character death. We're talking about campaign death, in the form of a TPK. If you can't see the difference between those two things, well, I've no idea how to make that any clearer. Just because you can't follow an argument doesn't make it illogical. Just like being insulted because someone implied you were insane doesn't actually mean you're sane. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to make my psychotherapy appointment. [/QUOTE]

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