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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4131765" data-attributes="member: 4937"><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> I'm still bit understanding you.&nbsp; And unlike some other cases, where I actually understand what was said just not why it was said, this is an honest case of not understanding you. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />In 3e if the skill check is to be considered applicable to resolving the skill challenge, it needs to be relevant to the situation.&nbsp; In 3e, the player can respond to the arrival of the gaurd with, &quot;I use my Decipher Script to read the words on the uniform.&nbsp; I have a 25.&quot;, and such a proposition isn't necessarily relevant to the problem of the guard showing up in the way that the other examples I gave are.&nbsp; So how is 3e different that 4e in this regard?Again, gaurd shows up.&nbsp; You do something meaningless.&nbsp; Does the guard now get a turn?&nbsp; Is this different in 4e?&nbsp; It isn't?&nbsp; So before, when the guard showed up and the proposition was, &quot;I use my Decipher Script&quot;, the DM was obligated to consider the action relevant to resolving the challenge?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4131765, member: 4937"] :D I'm still bit understanding you. And unlike some other cases, where I actually understand what was said just not why it was said, this is an honest case of not understanding you. ;) In 3e if the skill check is to be considered applicable to resolving the skill challenge, it needs to be relevant to the situation. In 3e, the player can respond to the arrival of the gaurd with, "I use my Decipher Script to read the words on the uniform. I have a 25.", and such a proposition isn't necessarily relevant to the problem of the guard showing up in the way that the other examples I gave are. So how is 3e different that 4e in this regard? Again, gaurd shows up. You do something meaningless. Does the guard now get a turn? Is this different in 4e? It isn't? So before, when the guard showed up and the proposition was, "I use my Decipher Script", the DM was obligated to consider the action relevant to resolving the challenge? [/QUOTE]

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