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<blockquote data-quote="Colmarr" data-source="post: 4534373" data-attributes="member: 59182"><p>We recently encountered some issues with the errataed 4e stealth rules, and I thought I'd throw them open for discussion:</p><p> </p><p><strong>Issue 1:</strong> A shadowhunter bat ("SHB")starts its turn hidden. It uses Flyby attack (a standard action) to move 4 squares, attack PC1, and fly 4 more squares around a corner. PC1 has readied to attack the SHB when it moves into a square adjacent to him. On the way out the bat moves through a square threatened by PC2.</p><p> </p><p>[sblock=Our interpretation<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" /> The SHB retains it's hidden status until the end of its action, meaning that PC1's attack is at -5 for total concealment. PC2 doesn't get his opportunity attack because the SHB is still hidden (and thus invisible).[/sblock]</p><p> </p><p><strong>Issue 2:</strong> A goblin begins its turn hidden. PC1 is in the next room and has readied to attack the goblin if it appears. The goblin moves across the open doorway to the other side.</p><p> </p><p>[sblock=Our interpretation<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious :]" data-shortname=":]" />PC1's readied attack is at -5 to hit. Even though the goblin is in the open doorway, it retains it's hidden status until the end of its move action.[/sblock]</p><p> </p><p>Did we miss something?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Colmarr, post: 4534373, member: 59182"] We recently encountered some issues with the errataed 4e stealth rules, and I thought I'd throw them open for discussion: [B]Issue 1:[/B] A shadowhunter bat ("SHB")starts its turn hidden. It uses Flyby attack (a standard action) to move 4 squares, attack PC1, and fly 4 more squares around a corner. PC1 has readied to attack the SHB when it moves into a square adjacent to him. On the way out the bat moves through a square threatened by PC2. [sblock=Our interpretation:] The SHB retains it's hidden status until the end of its action, meaning that PC1's attack is at -5 for total concealment. PC2 doesn't get his opportunity attack because the SHB is still hidden (and thus invisible).[/sblock] [B]Issue 2:[/B] A goblin begins its turn hidden. PC1 is in the next room and has readied to attack the goblin if it appears. The goblin moves across the open doorway to the other side. [sblock=Our interpretation:]PC1's readied attack is at -5 to hit. Even though the goblin is in the open doorway, it retains it's hidden status until the end of its move action.[/sblock] Did we miss something? [/QUOTE]
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