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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 4131137" data-attributes="member: 18490">I have to say that I really dislike the term 'fluff'. The word makes it seem as if the flavor text is unimportant somehow.That said, I voted for more change in fluff, but not in crunch.The flavor of the game has changed a lot. Of course this element is the easiest part to change in a home game. I almost never use the flavor presented in the core rules when running a home brew campaign. When I run FR, that's a different matter. I try to stick to the canonical flavor.The crunch changes are difficult for me to assess. On the surface, 4e looks like a radical departure. I'm not sure, however, that it's greater than the jump from 2e to 3e. In that transistion there were some pretty major changes, including:1) unified system for determining stat bonuses2) iterative attacks for everyone3) skill system added4) feats added5) change in die rolling conventions (higher is always better)6) much faster xp progression7) equipment tied to character power8) expected wealth per level9) expected magic items10) introduction of the magic mart11) change in the way hp were determined (extra die every level)12) change in clerical magic (addition of domains, removal of spheres)13) multiclassing for everyone14) no more level restrictions for non-humans15) bonus spells for all spell-casters16) radical change in saving throw conventionsI'm sure there are many more that I could add, if I had the time to think about it.There are certainly a lot of changes in this edition, but some of them are reversing changes made in the 2e to 3e edition change. Overall, I believe that the changes this time around are significant, but no greater than the change from 2e to 3e. (I'll concede the change to the magic system is a really big one).Some of the changes that appear to be major are actually just tweaks on the system.1) saves => defenses: instead of the target rolling to resist, the attacker rolls to hit2) introduction of powers for martial characters: this was already done in Bo9S, but in many cases feats/maneuvers in 3e have become powers in 4eI could probably come up with more, but I have to get back to work.</blockquote>

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