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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 4085788" data-attributes="member: 1704">First, I resent the implication that I am a fanboy and would appreciate if you would either retract that or clarify that you did not intend to insult me.&nbsp; You have no idea what my attitude toward 4e is (I don't think I do either and if you search the boards you will not find anything from me passing judgment).&nbsp; Second, I did not answer &quot;Rituals.&quot;&nbsp; I suggested &quot;Rituals?&quot; *and* I highlighted the portions of the OP that I felt suggested that rituals might be the answer to at least part of his question/concern.&nbsp; Third, how is it that when we talk about a system about which not everything has been revealed you are free to assume the worst and attack anything not yet explained yet I cannot merely suggest a potential solution given information revealed so far?&nbsp; We are both working with incomplete information yet somehow the onus is on me to prove that the system doesn't suck and not on you to explain how you know that the system is broken/flawed/insufficient without the complete picture?Fourth, we do not know much about rituals in the game but we have heard that that they are supposed to fulfill a certain niche.&nbsp; The portions of the OP I called out are those which correspond to what we have been told about rituals (out of combat, longer duration, more freeform), so I think my suggestion that rituals may be filling the OP's perceived gap is reasonable.&nbsp; And again, note I suggested it (&quot;Rituals?&quot;).&nbsp; I did not simply dismiss the OP out of hand as you appear to have dismissed me as a fanboy.You are entitled to read rabid pro-4eism into anything that does not assume the worst about what we don't yet know but since I did not in fact take any position, extreme or otherwise, kindly keep the insults to yourself or (if you did not intend one) please be more careful in your choice of words.&nbsp; I didn't deserve that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 4085788, member: 1704"] First, I resent the implication that I am a fanboy and would appreciate if you would either retract that or clarify that you did not intend to insult me. You have no idea what my attitude toward 4e is (I don't think I do either and if you search the boards you will not find anything from me passing judgment). Second, I did not answer "Rituals." I suggested "Rituals?" *and* I highlighted the portions of the OP that I felt suggested that rituals might be the answer to at least part of his question/concern. Third, how is it that when we talk about a system about which not everything has been revealed you are free to assume the worst and attack anything not yet explained yet I cannot merely suggest a potential solution given information revealed so far? We are both working with incomplete information yet somehow the onus is on me to prove that the system doesn't suck and not on you to explain how you know that the system is broken/flawed/insufficient without the complete picture? Fourth, we do not know much about rituals in the game but we have heard that that they are supposed to fulfill a certain niche. The portions of the OP I called out are those which correspond to what we have been told about rituals (out of combat, longer duration, more freeform), so I think my suggestion that rituals may be filling the OP's perceived gap is reasonable. And again, note I suggested it ("Rituals?"). I did not simply dismiss the OP out of hand as you appear to have dismissed me as a fanboy. You are entitled to read rabid pro-4eism into anything that does not assume the worst about what we don't yet know but since I did not in fact take any position, extreme or otherwise, kindly keep the insults to yourself or (if you did not intend one) please be more careful in your choice of words. I didn't deserve that. [/QUOTE]

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