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<blockquote data-quote="Kaisoku" data-source="post: 4085989" data-attributes="member: 58447">This is exactly what I see here as well. And it does happen with every edition. You can't play standard D&amp;D rules (at nearly any edition) without it being Vancian-ish style, &quot;per day&quot; magic.Roleplaying your favorite wizard in a fantasy book that didn't emulate this style was impossible within the rules. Hence, the addition of spellpoint rules and reserve feats, etc.The rules are telling you what you can do in the game world. This can directly impact your roleplaying experience if you are wanting to do something other than what the rules say. It's not just about power level, it's about what can and can't be done in the game world.Only so much can be covered by flavour text.Now, my opinion is that 4e feels like it might be capable of getting closer to giving a more flexible set of rules to accommodate more concepts. Especially if the DMG provides help with rules altering and DM fiat.There can be fundemental immersion flaws that can get in the way though, depending on how much of a &quot;living, breathing world&quot; you intend to make. Per Encounter abilities are fine when it comes to a game mechanic, as it can more readily balance abilities in terms of combat.However, if you want more simulation, it can break immersion. Why did a spell last longer in one encounter, but not this time, etc. It's a mechanic that is meant to be glossed over, but for a group of players trying to think as their character would (as opposed to as a player outside the game would), it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb.This is the difference between saying:- This ability lasts for 5 minutes, and requires X time of non-combat rest to recover and reuse.vs- This ability lasts until the end of the encounter and can be reused by the next encounter with a brief rest.When building a world that &quot;makes sense&quot; with the game mechanics, the first one helps a lot more and breaks immersion less, because it's more clearly defined, and has more than just gamist balance in mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaisoku, post: 4085989, member: 58447"] This is exactly what I see here as well. And it does happen with every edition. You can't play standard D&D rules (at nearly any edition) without it being Vancian-ish style, "per day" magic. Roleplaying your favorite wizard in a fantasy book that didn't emulate this style was impossible within the rules. Hence, the addition of spellpoint rules and reserve feats, etc. The rules are telling you what you can do in the game world. This can directly impact your roleplaying experience if you are wanting to do something other than what the rules say. It's not just about power level, it's about what can and can't be done in the game world. Only so much can be covered by flavour text. Now, my opinion is that 4e feels like it might be capable of getting closer to giving a more flexible set of rules to accommodate more concepts. Especially if the DMG provides help with rules altering and DM fiat. There can be fundemental immersion flaws that can get in the way though, depending on how much of a "living, breathing world" you intend to make. Per Encounter abilities are fine when it comes to a game mechanic, as it can more readily balance abilities in terms of combat. However, if you want more simulation, it can break immersion. Why did a spell last longer in one encounter, but not this time, etc. It's a mechanic that is meant to be glossed over, but for a group of players trying to think as their character would (as opposed to as a player outside the game would), it kind of sticks out like a sore thumb. This is the difference between saying: - This ability lasts for 5 minutes, and requires X time of non-combat rest to recover and reuse. vs - This ability lasts until the end of the encounter and can be reused by the next encounter with a brief rest. When building a world that "makes sense" with the game mechanics, the first one helps a lot more and breaks immersion less, because it's more clearly defined, and has more than just gamist balance in mind. [/QUOTE]

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