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<blockquote data-quote="thedungeondelver" data-source="post: 4552267" data-attributes="member: 34865">I have a bumper sticker that says DUNGEONS &amp; DRAGONS on it.&nbsp; I had a beach towel when I was a kid that had some illos from the MONSTER MANUAL superimposed over a generic sort of dungeon map that said ADVANCED DUNGEONS &amp; DRAGONS on it.&nbsp; These two items were not the DUNGEONS &amp; DRAGONS game - but by your definition they were.There's a point at which when you leap so far away from things that identify your product as one thing that it is no longer easily identifiable as such when your customers legitimately ask whether or not you're still making the same stuff.&nbsp; D&amp;D was pushed across this boundary with the release of the ever-increasingly-inaccurately numbered 4th edition.&nbsp; I'm not the only person making that assertion, and to conclude I'd remind you of the old saw that goes &quot;If one man calls you a horse, that man is a fool.&nbsp; If a hundred do it, buy yourself a bridle and saddle.&quot;The &quot;horse&quot; in this case is the &quot;not-D&amp;D&quot; game that was released by the &quot;you&quot; (WotC).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thedungeondelver, post: 4552267, member: 34865"] [font=century gothic] I have a bumper sticker that says [b]DUNGEONS & DRAGONS[/B] on it. I had a beach towel when I was a kid that had some illos from the [b]MONSTER MANUAL[/B] superimposed over a generic sort of dungeon map that said [b]ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS[/B] on it. These two items were not the [b]DUNGEONS & DRAGONS[/B] game - but by your definition they were. There's a point at which when you leap so far away from things that identify your product as one thing that it is no longer easily identifiable as such when your customers legitimately ask whether or not you're still making the same stuff. [b]D&D[/b] was pushed across this boundary with the release of the ever-increasingly-inaccurately numbered 4th edition. I'm not the only person making that assertion, and to conclude I'd remind you of the old saw that goes "If one man calls you a horse, that man is a fool. If a hundred do it, buy yourself a bridle and saddle." The "horse" in this case is the "not-[b]D&D[/b]" game that was released by the "you" (WotC). [/font] [/QUOTE]

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