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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4553602" data-attributes="member: 70778">I do not disagree with anything there.</blockquote>What JackSmithIV was saying was it's perfectly fine to criticize the products made for D&D. That's what the designers' jobs are. But it's ridiculous to say that they aren't making something that's D&D. It's just that it's something that you don't like.[/quote]It is perfectly fine to say it is not D&D. (see New Coke)They are the only ones that get the right to decide what can carry the logo/label, but it that really all D&D is now to people? If that is the case, then D&D died when WotC bought TSR and started putting the Wizards logo on 2nd Edition books.Nike can claim their shoes are the only ones that can be called Nike, but they do not have a right to say Nike means shoes, instead of being the Greek god equal to the Roman's Victoria.And like Boll, people have a right to say if the game made is worthy of being called D&D.WotC makes games, they have never made D&D. It existed prior to WotC. They have the right to say what can have D&D on it, but they do not have the right to force people to think it is D&D, just like Boll doesn't have the right to say his flops are box office blockbusters.No it isn't. D&D is not just a brand, and again if it is, then D&D died when in the hands of LW. WotC then was only french kissing a corpse instead of breathing life back into the game, just so it could feel up the "brand" and use its likeness elsewhere.Yes. Players do have the right to say that 4th edition is NOT D&D, they just don't have a right to put anything out under that name to prove otherwise.The day WotC people are allowed to hold a gun to people's head and make them say that 4th edition is D&D, and everyone agrees on it, only then will 4th edition undeniably be held by all to be D&D, and that day thankfully will never come.If the makers cannot accept that people disagree with them, then it is time for those people to get new jobs. Otherwise just accept some don't acknowledge your creation to be what you claim it to be and move on, make the next book in your product line, etc.[/QUOTE]

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