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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Korgoth" data-source="post: 4553619" data-attributes="member: 49613">I think you just gave away your whole position.The next question is, define exactly what you mean by "similar". A lot of people do not think that 4E is similar enough to previous editions of D&D to be called "D&D". So now you have to tell us what you mean by similar and how many points of similarity you require, and which factors are or are not relevant.Instead of putting the D&D label on the Pokemon card game, imagine if they put it on that little Pokemon role playing game that came out a few years back (it was in a small box). It's basically a bildungsroman / coming of age story about a youthful adventurer seeking his fortune and interacting with monsters and other adventurers. Monsters have a suite of powers to choose from, and there are different configurations of powers, some of which trump others. There are hit points and attacks and an IGO/UGO turn structure. You could talk about a lot of similarities.By the same token, you can point to drastic differences between 4E and original D&D. Vast, striking, overwhelming differences.So you can't just assert that 4E is "similar" enough to previous editions to still be called D&D. If that's your serious claim then you'll have to establish it. I'm not sure, ultimately, that you'll be able to do so satisfactorily, though.What you should say is that if HASBRO had put the D&D label on a can of green beans, a can of green beans would henceforth be the D&D game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Myself, I think 4E approaches gameplay so differently (roll, roll, roll your skill) and is thematically so divorced (Fantasy Superheroes vs. hardscrabble mercenaries) from the original that they are two different games. Which doesn't mean that I think there should be no such thing as 4E... just that it should have been called something like "Dungeons & Dragons Presents: Wuxia of the Rings!" or "D&D Presents: Crouching Naruto Hidden Deedlit" or whatever.</blockquote>

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