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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justanobody" data-source="post: 4553851" data-attributes="member: 70778">Not at all...Just illustrating with your post and beliefs that just because someone claims something to be the thing does not make it true, and why even WotC claiming something to be D&D now does not make it so.Your idea of what D&D is may not be limited in this day and age, but it also does not require the term "D&D" for your idea to exist, and that is one of the things that have bastardized D&D in regards to 4th edition for many.So you could easily call any RPG you play D&D, and it would be wrong because if you invite people over the play D&D and you break out Rifts books, for example, they would probably wonder how competent* you are to not be able to tell the difference, and to run the game you intend to have them play. They may just leave without another word because they came to play D&D rather than Rifts. A little miscommunication can go a long way.Likewise 4th edition may be labeled as such as thing and WotC currently has the right to make any and all D&D products or grant the license to thers, it does not mean that everything will be readily accepted as D&D, because by your own definition it only takes removing mind-flayers, or maybe even calling them mind-flayers to no longer be D&D.*Of course just being bland here and no offense meant, but illustrating how one definition does not hold true for all until there IS a unified definition of it, and WotC made one when creating 4th that differed from many previously held definitions in the past.So if you want to play Rifts and call it D&D, that is your choice, but when talking with others you should have the respect to name it correctly if you understand it.I don't think 4th edition is D&D, but will grudgingly use the term to name it for other people when talking about 4th edition if they ask. Most likely to be followed shortly after my disagreement with calling it such being the correct thing to do from my perspective.The truth still remains.Each player has the final word in saying what is and is not D&D, just like anything else.And it is perfectly fine for people to disagree, but threads like this that try to force people to accept ones view over their own are things that cause the problems.4th is D&D, says you [WotC].4th is not the only D&D.D&D is not 4th edition.</blockquote>

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