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<blockquote data-quote="jdsivyer" data-source="post: 4554666" data-attributes="member: 78336"><p>I agree.</p><p></p><p>With so many people having played, and are still playing D&D, it's bound to mean something different to everyone. Some people use it for high fantasy, some for low fantasy, some for gritty fantasy. Some use it for modern games, some don't. And with the plethora of House Rules out there amongst gamers, it'd be hard presses to find 2 games (house games) that are the exact same.</p><p></p><p>What is D&D? It's a game. With different editions. Played by thousands of people who play it the way they like to play it. </p><p></p><p>When people say 4e isn't D&D, they're only saying 1 of 2 things:</p><p></p><p>1) The don't like the mechanics</p><p>2) It's not how they want to play the game</p><p></p><p>And that's fine. 1e, 2e, 3e, etc...they are all D&D because that's what the label says. D&D is nothing more than a brand name. What we play is OUR version of D&D, whether it be by the rules or with changes we have made.</p><p></p><p>Star Wars is a brand name. It means you can expect certain things from a Star Wars movie, but there will always be changes and different movies from the Star Wars saga that you like or don't like. Is The Phantom Menace Star Wars? According to the label it is. But it's not my favourite Star Wars film.</p><p></p><p>4e is D&D. But it's not my favourite D&D system. Yet it's still D&D because that's what the logo says - and the company that owns the brand can change what they want...for better or for worse is simply one person's opinion.</p><p></p><p>1e was D&D but some people didn't like it. Yet some of these same people liked 3e. </p><p></p><p>You could give a 1000 analogies, from movies to video games.</p><p></p><p>But if I had to attempt to make a guess as to what D&D is (to go against all that I have said), I'd say it's an rpg set against the backdrop of a medieval fantasy world. I mean, it is called Dungeons and Dragons, after all. But each generation, each own, each designer, has their own take on how it should be tackled. Just as WOTC has done with 4e. I have no doubt they thought they were improving the game (and to many they have done just that)...but then again, George Lucas thought he was improving the original 3 Star Wars movies when he decided to create the Special Editions.</p><p></p><p>Greedo firing first? Is THAT the Star Wars we know and love? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jdsivyer, post: 4554666, member: 78336"] I agree. With so many people having played, and are still playing D&D, it's bound to mean something different to everyone. Some people use it for high fantasy, some for low fantasy, some for gritty fantasy. Some use it for modern games, some don't. And with the plethora of House Rules out there amongst gamers, it'd be hard presses to find 2 games (house games) that are the exact same. What is D&D? It's a game. With different editions. Played by thousands of people who play it the way they like to play it. When people say 4e isn't D&D, they're only saying 1 of 2 things: 1) The don't like the mechanics 2) It's not how they want to play the game And that's fine. 1e, 2e, 3e, etc...they are all D&D because that's what the label says. D&D is nothing more than a brand name. What we play is OUR version of D&D, whether it be by the rules or with changes we have made. Star Wars is a brand name. It means you can expect certain things from a Star Wars movie, but there will always be changes and different movies from the Star Wars saga that you like or don't like. Is The Phantom Menace Star Wars? According to the label it is. But it's not my favourite Star Wars film. 4e is D&D. But it's not my favourite D&D system. Yet it's still D&D because that's what the logo says - and the company that owns the brand can change what they want...for better or for worse is simply one person's opinion. 1e was D&D but some people didn't like it. Yet some of these same people liked 3e. You could give a 1000 analogies, from movies to video games. But if I had to attempt to make a guess as to what D&D is (to go against all that I have said), I'd say it's an rpg set against the backdrop of a medieval fantasy world. I mean, it is called Dungeons and Dragons, after all. But each generation, each own, each designer, has their own take on how it should be tackled. Just as WOTC has done with 4e. I have no doubt they thought they were improving the game (and to many they have done just that)...but then again, George Lucas thought he was improving the original 3 Star Wars movies when he decided to create the Special Editions. Greedo firing first? Is THAT the Star Wars we know and love? ;) [/QUOTE]
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