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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Brown Jenkin" data-source="post: 4556901" data-attributes="member: 2572">Semantics first. There is no America. There is a North American Continent and a South American Continent. There is a country called the United States of America on the North American Continent. I assume you are referring in your question to the United States of America.Without semantics. The United States of America is a nation state founded in 1789 and continues on to this day. The nation state is formed under its controlling document The Constitution of the United States. This nation state is the same nation state as it was in 1789 because it is still regulated and controlled by its constitution in an uninterrupted manner since its founding. While the borders of the country and its leaders and people have changed over time they have done so under the rules established in this founding document. Even the fact that the founding document is not exactly the same at this time does not change this as all  because changes to the founding document were made using the rules set forth in the original founding document. Thus America is still America.Each person has his/her own definition of what makes D&D to them. There is no one answer. Depending on the definition of what makes D&D what it is, this question can also have many answers. To me there were enough similarities between OD&D and all following editions that I would say that they were all D&D to me. The change to daily/encounter/at will powers as the basis for all characters went to far. The removal of vancian magic went to far. The creation of quantum hitpoints went to far. These are but some of the reasons that I don't see 4th edition as D&D. Under a strict definition only the original D&D box set with Hobbits is D&D. I am loosening that definition for myself by allowing other things to also count as D&D. I do not loosen the definition enough to include 4th Edition. Others do. I hope that was semanticless enough for you.</blockquote>

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