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<blockquote data-quote="Pbartender" data-source="post: 4112281" data-attributes="member: 7533"><p>It kind of depends on your point of view... I see both as a sort of feedback loop.</p><p></p><p>"This is who I am. Therefore, I do that. That must mean I am a little bit more like this. There fore, I do that..." etc. The difference is where you start.</p><p></p><p>Do you build the stat block of your character and then explain where the abilities come from afterwards? Or do you fill out the history and personality of the character first, and then choose classes, feats and skills to match? I've both in 3.5, and don't see any reason why you couldn't build characters either way in 4E either. It's like MO says, I think that's a player-driven weight, not a game-driven weight.</p><p></p><p>If anything, for my group, the suggestion that 4E is action oriented would be a benefit. my players often have a tendency to create "believable characters", which once the game starts take actions that are completely uninformed by the framework of personality they built... By and large, they end up being the stereotypical paranoid-mercenary-adventurer. Or, the character's action are so thoroughly constrained by who they are, the character never "grows". I know I've fallen in the same ruts more than once. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek! :o" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" /> </p><p></p><p>Anyway, there are particular details that my players or I aren't completely happy with in 4E, but for the most part, the slight paradigm shift seems to better suit our play style, whether my players are willing to admit it or not... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pbartender, post: 4112281, member: 7533"] It kind of depends on your point of view... I see both as a sort of feedback loop. "This is who I am. Therefore, I do that. That must mean I am a little bit more like this. There fore, I do that..." etc. The difference is where you start. Do you build the stat block of your character and then explain where the abilities come from afterwards? Or do you fill out the history and personality of the character first, and then choose classes, feats and skills to match? I've both in 3.5, and don't see any reason why you couldn't build characters either way in 4E either. It's like MO says, I think that's a player-driven weight, not a game-driven weight. If anything, for my group, the suggestion that 4E is action oriented would be a benefit. my players often have a tendency to create "believable characters", which once the game starts take actions that are completely uninformed by the framework of personality they built... By and large, they end up being the stereotypical paranoid-mercenary-adventurer. Or, the character's action are so thoroughly constrained by who they are, the character never "grows". I know I've fallen in the same ruts more than once. :o Anyway, there are particular details that my players or I aren't completely happy with in 4E, but for the most part, the slight paradigm shift seems to better suit our play style, whether my players are willing to admit it or not... :D [/QUOTE]
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